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Stanley Meyer's fuel cell theory
« on: February 11, 2023, 16:46:47 pm »
My theoretical calculations based on laboratory experiments will be presented here.
Laboratory experiments will also be presented here.
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Re: Stanley Meyer's fuel cell theory
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2023, 23:55:53 pm »
Hello forum guests http://www.ionizationx.com
I took a close look at Stanley Meyer's fuel generator and its fuel cell on January 19, 2021.
And he achieved good results in the development of the Meyer Fuel Cell Theory.
The Internet is full of electrical circuits, technical solutions and disputes that the Meyer cell is a fully working prototype and many opposite opinions that this is a scam from Stanley Meyer.
However, no one provided the calculations and physico-mathematical models of the Meyer Fuel Cell as evidence.
Like everyone else, I watched a video with his participation from a conference in New Zealand.
In his explanations, I did not find any contradictions in what he says.
However, again in this video, he simply explained, but did not describe his theory in a formulaic form.
He left behind many patents, but did not publish his theory in a formulaic form.
If he published his theory in the form of formulas, there would be no more secrets. And all his patents could be circumvented.
I approached his theory from different angles. Along the way, I studied the Proteus 8 program, learned how to etch boards using the LUT method, figured out Arduino programming, and I had to learn a lot of things along the way.
Finally, on July 17, 2021, I had a breakthrough and started deriving Stanley Meyer's Fuel Cell Theory in formula form.
I had to endure "attacks" just like that, attacks, and not criticism from inadequate personalities who did not bother to carefully consider my calculations and find errors in formal logic.
No constructive dialogue could be established with them, they simply threw out a bunch of information from textbooks without building them into a complete logical structure.
I ended up just banning them. Why would I waste time sorting through unrelated information that sits in their head.
That is, I formalized Stanley Meyer's theory in other words, described physical processes using formulas.
This topic is about just that.

I recorded all my actions and posted them on YouTube.
In fact, YouTube became my video diary about how I studied Stanley Meyer's fuel cell.

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Re: Stanley Meyer's fuel cell theory
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2023, 23:58:55 pm »
"Do not go with the knowledge of Electrolysis into the Meyer Cell"

What does it mean?
This means exactly one thing, that Faraday electrolysis and the Meyer cell work on different principles.
Although they have the same result: getting Brown's gas.
Faraday electrolysis works on the principle of a redox reaction.
At the same time, ELECTRONS on the electrodes and in the electrical circuit are active participants in this Chemical reaction, and IONS are active participants in the electrolyte environment.
The Meyer cell works on the principle of polarization of a molecule followed by disintegration through a covalent bond.
At the same time, an active participant in this Physical process is a pulsating Electric field

THAT is Faraday electrolysis is CHEMISTRY
And the Meyer cell is Physics
Remember this once and for all, do not go into Physics (Field Theory) with the knowledge of Chemistry (Electrochemistry)

And now a little more
In the Meyer cell, everything is done in order to remove the redox reaction
To do this, CURRENT is prevented - the flow of Electrons in the environment of the electrical circuit and on the electrodes
And IONS are also removed from the water, that is, distilled water is used to show that this is not electrolysis.
While plain water can also be used, the purer the better.
Since there can be no Faraday electrolysis in distilled water due to the absence of IONS.
That is, in the Meyer cell, they do everything possible to remove all the causes that lead to Faraday electrolysis.

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Re: Stanley Meyer's fuel cell theory
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2023, 09:51:08 am »
No formulas, just a verbal description of the Stanley Meyer process,
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Re: Stanley Meyer's fuel cell theory
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2023, 22:07:14 pm »
Hello welcome to the forum!

I watched your video… yes it’s possible we may need a oxide insulator.. have you read tay he Han patent? And David Haitin?

They indeed use high dielectric constant ceramics… I tried to develop something like this here in Brazil at the university however was difficult to conform the barium titanate into a solid plate or something testable…


I believe Meyer relies on very short pulsing alone with some dc current that saturates the plates with current…

There is a double layer formed where we place a metal on water that is what makes the difference metals potential

Is the actual force they hold their electrons…

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Re: Stanley Meyer's fuel cell theory
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2023, 05:38:37 am »
Hi Fabio!
Have you watched Ravi Raju's channel?
He has a calcite layer on his cathode. But it is not stable in its physical characteristics.



Ravi spent 4 weeks building up this layer (training the electrodes).
This time can be reduced to 1 hour.
It is necessary to take two strips of AISI 304 (316/316L) with a gap of 1 mm.
Prepare the electrolyte distilled water 9 parts and 1 part saturated baking soda solution (NaON).
You connect the power supply from the laptop with stainless steel and put it in the electrolyte for 1 hour.
After an hour, there will be a dielectric layer on one electrode.
Then you check what is the difference between a cell with a dielectric and without a dielectric.
In one case, you will have large and transparent bubbles.in another case, there will be no bubbles, but there will be something like "milk"

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Re: Stanley Meyer's fuel cell theory
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2023, 09:18:25 am »
I tried many types of conditioning of the electrodes… I even had them covered with palladium but actually the only difference I tried to measure is the minimum voltage rewuired for electrolysis…

I watched his work a lot too but never got this layer in any electrode… in Italy the water was very hard and still there no layer I could verify

Did you used the same water?

I already tried also polishing the electrodes


What type of ss u use?

One thing I noticed is that the depending on the chemicals present the bubbles are different.. also the temperature changes it’s característics…

Let’s try to find what influences the bubbles… the description we get from Meyer is that gallons of water is converted real quick and this mean sprite like bubbles like a refrigerant can shake opening

That’s why I recently believe that he may even spend low energy but to trigger the reaction may not be so simple

I don’t remember the exact number now but the force of attraction between the ions is inversely proportional to the concentration of ions… if I remember well at 1ppm the attraction between the ions is in the kv/mm range

The force that holds the water molecule is in the MV range or higher…

At the double layer formed on water electrode interface there is 5MV/mm again if I remember well… this is because the voltage drop is limited to a very sharp region… nano to mícron distance… so half volt gives million per milimetre

Maybe if water is pure enough and we can get over the ions than water molecules may be able to get real flexed and maybe take into a sort of resonance…

If all that don’t work the only way I see of providing the water a strong enough electric field would be to use laser

If you have a book on the ground you need to apply a force greater than gravity to make it go up

Similarly water molecule has its electrons at ground state… So to get it to oscillate we need to apply an electric field greater than the electric field holding the molecule… that plus a pulsating field may be able to split and keep the water molecules apart to be able to get them out as gas…

I seen titanium electrodes are used for using sun light as catalyst…

I’m thinking of a design inspired on water treatment and ozone generators of a tube with openings with a lamp inserted into it… so basically the light come from the inside… water would cool it by the flow…

If you think about the electromagnetic wave from the light will be perpendicular to the electric field…

Meyer said visible lights could be used somewhere…

I think that at a certain polarization it will like tune to the light frequency… or maybe only the right frequency is useful

Any heat emits infra reds so I’m not totally sure if the laser is needed… but for me makes sense… there is some materials that also emit infrared by absorbing heat… that may be interesting too

The preferred wavelength could be that for the stretching of the molecule

But I’m starting to think that depending on the angle of incidence it could maybe lower the required ev




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Re: Stanley Meyer's fuel cell theory
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2023, 09:49:59 am »
I didn't understand. What is SS ?


For the Stanley Meyer process, it doesn't matter what kind of water.
The oxide film layer obtained in the NaOH electrolyte had a resistance of 300 Mega ohms. Water has a resistance from 8 to 300 ohms. The resistance of the oxide film + water resistance = 300M ohms + 300 ohms.
Accordingly, there will be no voltage drawdown.
But experiments have shown that the NaOH-based oxide film loses its physical properties over time. And as a result, Faraday electrolysis is obtained