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Re: My new approach
« Reply #568 on: June 30, 2024, 16:51:54 pm »
What I’m trying to mean is that if water act as a dc generator if  resonant cavity magnetic fields are locked in same frequency and phase relationship to the movement of the particles oscillating there..

When I mean generator is that it develop a voltage on itself by the energy accumulated in the resonant cavity that was poured into

The greater

If we have dc current flowing thru the cell and we make it interact with a ac magnetic field do you agree it would create a force alternating in direction

That’s why I compare it to a straight dc motor behavior where as the particles go in one direction the magnetic field is in one direction resulting a positive voltage for example than where particles change direction also the field reverse the polarity so again the emf generated is in the same direction as the previous so it’s like a dc generator from the point we short the cell if we get positive on one side it mean the hydrogen is there so when I mean when we use water as a like if it was the wire in a generator cutting the magnetic fields it generate ac if the fields are say dc magnetic field because now the fields don’t flip only the particles changing direction

So if we apply dc pulses to the water having a permanent magnetic field it will cause the positive electrode to become negative after the pulse

If we flip the magnetic field we instead get a doubled frequency dc pulse instead of getting the voltage reversed like in the case where the magnetic field don’t flip

The point of greater force is where you get the highest current

Basically I’m treating water as if it was a part of ultrasonic transducer inside a cavity that has a length and suppose to be able to resonate



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Re: My new approach
« Reply #569 on: June 30, 2024, 16:54:44 pm »
My phone is deleting things as I write… I will try to correct on the computer what it changed

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« Reply #570 on: June 30, 2024, 22:25:43 pm »

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« Reply #571 on: July 01, 2024, 23:30:41 pm »

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« Reply #572 on: July 09, 2024, 18:27:26 pm »
Well it seem to me if the magnetic field is high enough and voltage applied to the cell is enough to make the water ions get enough energy but locked in a semicircular motion it would be able to make the electrodes to have a current therefore bothe electrodes would be generating hydrogen and oxygen probably at same time

Is possible that this current flow thru the dual layer former

So basicaly what I’m saying is that the ions won’t be able to cross the cell if the magnetic force is too high the path become circular like a particle accelerator

I have consider what if the coil around connected to a capacitor would dicata the frequency where it would best allow the particles to move

So for that dc is applied to the coils thru a choke

The choke prevents the ac from load the dc source

So the idea now is to apply just the flyback pulse to water using the Vic

Such that when it reverse polarity the diode simply block the reverse voltage slowing the cell to develop a negative voltage where it was first apliedbpositive

That because now the mag field is dc and we are just pulsing dc

This seem to be the best way to identify the cavity property

So the field coil having a capacitor make of it a resonant circuit

I believe that applying the dc pulses to the water will induce in this coil a resonance even if is not connected to the cell

Basically because the field is making the particles rotate without consuming power directly since is perpendicular

So is possible that the tuned coil outside of the cell when in resonance will make the particles inside dance only in a certain frequekcy


When they rotate they should induce voltage to the coil and also vice versa

The water contaminants distance between each other is what seem the most important variable

Because it will tell the mean free path and the frequency and also as the concentration decreases the distance increase and so the energy that hold them together on the matrix smaller

What I’m saying is that the resonance of this coil outside the cell disturb the cell matrix of equidistant particles reducing the impedance at the resonance frequency to zero from the point of view of water as primary while from the point of view of the circuit current cannot pass thru water and so we get a high impedance

Let’s see how it comes





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« Reply #573 on: July 14, 2024, 20:40:55 pm »
A choke is a coil made to allow dc to pass but choke off higher frequencies

A tuned choke will choke signals from a certain freq

So to use a core for increasing the inductance we need to make halve the turns in one side of the core and half on the other and they should in series be opposing

So above this we can add a feedback coil

When dc is pulsed at correct frequency at the cell the resonance coils that are connected in series with the choke will show signal even if there is only dc on it…

That because it will act like an active antena to the ions movements

This is pretty much similar in a sense to how nuclear magnetic imagining works

The feequwnxy of Lamont prececion depends on the magnetic fields





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Re: My new approach
« Reply #574 on: July 15, 2024, 21:00:29 pm »
yes...sounds all correct. But why did Meyer use this? What was the point or goal?


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« Reply #575 on: July 17, 2024, 06:34:25 am »
Do u remember a patent that show how to determine the water solution composition?

The idea is that ac is not capable of showin the coil  if it’s shorted on the dc source

It would show only as current so decoupling the ac from the dc would allow the ac to be readable on the coil

Old am radios used a dc current on the antena to increase the needle force resulting in a greater sound amplitude

For that a choke was required to allow the ac to be useful

Please note that when I say the choke is connected in series with the resonant coil is because in this last example I’m talking about making dc to flow on it so to decouple it from the dc source the chime in series can be used and also it can be tuned so it poses a higher impedance to ac at that specific frequency

My intention is to detect the movement of the particles by observing the ac induced on the resonant coil around the cell

By having only dc on it and pulsing dc to water as the movement of water particles will be perpendicular to magnetic field lines it will induce a voltage on the coil so I hope at certain frequency this voltage will peak closer to resonance

A very narrow spike would make it oscillate at that specific frequency

T has why I mention nmr