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Re: My new approach
« Reply #544 on: June 24, 2024, 23:29:56 pm »
I was able to reduce the data intervals  to 30hz but im not happy with that

I believe the cavity being high q will probably have a band lowe than this where we can see any action

The solution is to reduce the channels to get more sample rate

Another way is reduce the scanning frequency of the so doing it slowly it have the time to capture the event

So perhaps instead of using the counter to measure the frequency I may use the current signal from resonance

So plotting only the current vs cell  current is the fastest way to go

Than extract the frequency from the ac current by software calculation

I just realized that reducing the band of the pll is what it takes

After all I got 30 because I was scanning thru like 2000hz if I was doing slower and or reduce the band it will scan they a narrower band maybe 10 hz maybe 100

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« Reply #545 on: June 25, 2024, 14:34:32 pm »
I posted some shorts on y YouTube on my top tech channel

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« Reply #546 on: June 26, 2024, 03:04:42 am »
I just finished installing everything

I’m curious what’s about to happen!

I’m just confirming the connection are correct and play!

Now I have 1 ohm resistor in the negative side coil to track the resonant amperage
I may add another one in parallel for reducing the power and also for safety because if one burn the other at least save my inputs of the labview

In doing this stuff and burning 10s of thousands of components and equipment I learned to be double cautious aways!

And a 0.06875 ohm to measure the cell current with a ni92411 differential module

The resistors are 5 watts type  wire wound

So I ground this end of the coil because of the reading and therefore the high voltage will be on the ends of the coils and the Vic

If I were going to take the reading only of cell current it would be possible to make it an isolated ground providing that point would not pass beyond the requirements of the diferential module that is 250v

So that mean a circuit need to be in a safe region where is attached to a reading device

The ground is also on the Vic primary so if we don’t provide a resistor at least to ground and or maybe also some kind of tvs or variar or in parallle with it the ground from Vic side will capacitvely destroy the reading equipe te with high voltage

However if is lightly grounded it I’ll have that highe voltage between the primary and secondary on the Vic

This is the only way of doing!

I still have the counter for only the pll frequency and discarded the gate frequency reading as is not relevant now

Also the temperature readings were omitted to try getting more datapoints

I combined all datapoints of cell current to a xy graph so it I’ll talk e all the reading over the others as function of frequency so if any thing is going it stop being a straight line so will make a very easy way to find it

Every time I stop the thing it plots this result!

Cross your fingers!
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Re: My new approach
« Reply #547 on: June 26, 2024, 08:35:01 am »
Lets hope on a mirical  :)
100 liter per sec  8)

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #548 on: June 26, 2024, 13:34:29 pm »
I gave it a first try this morning it indeed resonates at 10,5 kHz as I planed

The resonance voltage seems 10 timers greater than water but vary

Water resistance with 50ma flowing in resonance peaks10kohm making 40v for 4ma with some gas output

Not impressive at all

But the circuit does exactly what I planned

I didnt added the diodes yet loading the resonance only the series diodes

The  resonant voltage become half at 9,5 kHz

As I predicted it may be only at a single frequency that we may be able to get some more effect

I didn’t go over 20 w yet

The ideal was to try measuring the gas output vs this amps going to the cell and see if faraday law was broken

I have some pressure sensores so I can also hook into labview and try get on that later I just need to make sure the cell don’t leak before

The amount of gas seems to small for a flow meter to operate

The wave form on the water is very strange very noise

I’m going to make a nice study of it and start selling the results

This results are gold! If I had the before build I would have spend much less time to get where I’m now and to where I go

So they are really valuable

I’m going to split all the info into documents and I hope some get interested in getting this short cut

By the way I’m pretty sure Stan did exactly this circuit not because I copied from him but because it’s the simples and best way of doing it

He never show the real circuit only very simplified schemes but as he said once you know the language of science and get the prior art knowledge is evident what he was doing and saying and why and even what was misleading

I luckily had the time to see water break with few ma

Now we need to see if is economic








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Re: My new approach
« Reply #549 on: June 26, 2024, 17:56:34 pm »
There is a point that seems an oscilation of the water resistance at first I thought was the bubbles but perhaps is just amp restriction

Now is time to also test the rolled flux capacitor cell

Hope I can go back in time and tell my self in the past the secret and also for my dad to take vermífugo Anita!


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« Reply #550 on: June 26, 2024, 20:45:47 pm »
Einstein once said:
Everything a man ignores don’t existe for him and that’s why each one’s universe size is dependent on his knowledge.


5 minutes with this system gave me more info about it than I would have got in weeks of blind testes

All the waiting was worth it
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« Reply #551 on: June 27, 2024, 00:21:47 am »
I wrote few time ago that if I place dc on the resonant coils and ac on water it will be easier to find the cavity resonance

May be the same

There’s a very much higher voltage ac over water I’m not sure how I can take the reading of dc of it

Somehow the cell is receiving ac mostly it seems or maybe is generating ac because is out of tune

Wish I had some friends to help me watch the monitors while I change the parameters I’m doing like 3 things at same time and still thinking where to direct itzzz