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« Reply #384 on: April 23, 2024, 14:52:09 pm »
There are 3 or more things that compose the restriction of amps

The first is the geometry having the positive greater area than negative seems like a way to restrict some

The second is the coil resonance

And the third is the interaction of the coil resonance with cavity resonance

The second will even start to reduce as water impedance increase…

So the voltage on water only rise after this two matches

Before it I’ll only have half wave and mix of noise

The most important thing to notice is that the coils out and in the electrode cancel each other to zero the induction and leave only the pure juice of the magnetic field on the gap to interact with the small current we are putting it

Stan commented we are going to consume power

For example you put 1000 volts 20ma that is 20w that is because water is there generating this polarization and so we need to hit everytime little over the before

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« Reply #385 on: April 23, 2024, 15:01:44 pm »
Considerino this the feedback when capable of detecting this double frequency than if dividing by two it should possible to lock with the pll at 90degree

However I’m thing on the fact when this water resonance happens it will kind of put the current in phase with voltage because it will increase resistance over the inductive properties of the series circuit

So perhaps all is needed is another coil other than the resonating one to detect the lag in phase but when resonance hits it the phase goes from 90 to zero hopefully

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« Reply #386 on: April 24, 2024, 06:26:43 am »
I’m now hooking the oscilloscopes together to have 4 channels maybe5

I’m going to use external trigger with the trigger output of one oscilloscope where I will put the gate or pulse in as trigger in

This way I have 4 channels to use all in sync with the pulse or gate without consuming a channel

Than I will use the dpk30 for the voltage across the cell and across the lrc on one channel

I will put a current probe too or resistor if the probe is not good for the cell current on another channel

Than I will have the feedback on another channel

And finally the pulse input or maybe another signal

Ideally i would have two dpk one for the cell and one for the coil but unfortunately I don’t have money for that now

I may create a simple divider with small pulse transformer in series

I’m now considering it can be explosive experiment so I’m put in a way that I can be some how more protected

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« Reply #387 on: April 24, 2024, 08:37:52 am »
A nice pentium from intel....
In the days that was nice to have.

4 channels i n synch will give a nice optical show

I hope that you can see some confirmation on your theory, Fabio!

Cheers and good luck!

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« Reply #388 on: April 24, 2024, 21:44:34 pm »
It’s getting shape…

Today I got the physics simulation workshop but it don’t run on my computer because it’s old

I have 2 weeks trial to simulate the magnetic field but have to find a computer or be able to upgrade mine today

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« Reply #389 on: April 25, 2024, 00:49:41 am »
You guys could help me in this process watching the tutorials to find one that has similar results we want

We can simulate the acústics and even the amp restriction

Send me an email to sebosfato gmail so we can talk about if you are interested

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« Reply #390 on: April 25, 2024, 14:04:26 pm »
Labview is up and running

I had to add a ir4427 before the counter to get the gate and main frequency to 15v level so it could read it with ni9422 module

I had to adjust some scales and now all is working perfectly

I added a 100kohm and 20kohm in series to get the voltage input divider 6 scale

One of my frequency dividers were kind of bad and so I hooked a breadboard with a divider and the other chip temporarily