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Re: My new approach
« Reply #336 on: April 05, 2024, 19:00:53 pm »
Test 3

Match the resonance of the cavity with the electrical resonance using the pll and the piezo from a umidifier as feedback

Here is where the amps will get restricted because the interaction of the water ions with ultrasonic resonance energy

When it exceeds the required voltage to discharge we can either short the cell or even use it as the power source to recharge a battery or feedback directly into the system creating a self sustaining oscillation directly reducing the power input  … may be easier if is there are two working as pairs as one will be using the energy of the collapse of the other

Test 4 would be to use a flash lamp instead of cycling back all the energy to try reach ionization of the gas and increased thermal output like Stan described in his patent finally

I hope to get up to 3 this weekend…

I took the whole week for this because my business is going well so I could find some peace of heart having the bills for the month paid.


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Re: My new approach
« Reply #337 on: April 09, 2024, 13:35:50 pm »
After lot of work I came to one conclusion I want you to know.

What Stanley meyer was doing with that magnetic wire was magnetic field

E= I x R

The thinner a wire is the best it is at generating a magnetic field that’s because power is proportional to the square of current so using very thin wire and higher voltage is better than low voltage high current to generate magnetic field.

So when he say you need to build a bigger coil you need a higher magnetic field

The magnetic field depends on turns density

He may use the resistive wire just for reducing the current to the needed or even to have more easy to wound since it’s harder to break than copper and also by its magnetic properties … the fact is that it would make the phase of the coil not 90degree

The resonant charging chokes on his drawings need to go around the cell… I bet if we look into the patents we going to find he may have put in some of the patents or even in the corrections …

Hope you grab the idea

I believe this is why he used high voltage… he had thousands and thousands of turns…. The voltage is needed to rise the current the resistance within the wire has no effect on the magnetic field it helps like he say in tech brief to reduce the noise and signal distortion meaning it won’t be actually resonating on itself if is resistive allowing to apply directly the needed voltage to it using a higher ratio transformer

The resistive wire also make it bad at creating currents on the electrodes since whatever current rise would simply be automatically neglected or impeded… this was something that was bothering me as I was thinking the electrodes would heat if I pulsed the coils or resonate them .. but seems not a problem if the resistance is high enough that it cannot be a primary to the electrode.

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See this example :  https://www.accelinstruments.com/Applications/WaveformAmp/Electromagnetic-Coil-Resonant.html
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Re: My new approach
« Reply #338 on: April 09, 2024, 15:48:27 pm »
When a capacitor have zero charge it will behave as a short ckt for an instant

This is maximum current possible

If the magnetic field is small when the current is maximum the force acting making them interact will be small

So basically the magnetic field may be better implemented if direct high voltage is applied for it rather than resonantly otherwise phase will be a concern on the electrical side too

That’s why a high resistive choke is used by him so he could apply some voltage that would in series provide the required magnet field strength and the current for the ultrasonic resonance…

In this manner I guess the feedback can come directly from the ultrasonic pickups piezo a microphone or something

I think we can use two cells using the colapse of each other to sum even more but that’s a next step

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #339 on: April 09, 2024, 18:56:01 pm »
I made a test with a 29awg 1square inch coil with 900 turns and it gives 10mT using 24v it measured 30ohms resistance so this gives 19W power consumption

I’m thinking about buying half kilo of 36 awg and make it very very big around the electrode… this wire is limited to 35ma

So may be a good idea to use it in series with the cell


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« Reply #340 on: April 09, 2024, 23:49:09 pm »
My greater consideration now is the heat

36awg seem to be a good choice

Each layer 600 turns I may put up to 20 layers or 30 layers

It would be around 2kohm per coil

This is also the resistance the cell have with very high pure water in it

I’m making the cell variable in height inside the cavity so I can change the frequency by moving it up or down

I’m hoping to get it up to maybe 300mT and hoping it can be increased at least 20 or 30% adding the core outside…

The cell itself will consume some magnetic field since it has iron in it but will saturate quickly leaving some useable field in between…

A small electrode unconnected to the outer electrode can be the feed back as it will detect the water voltage directly as it flips

The cell should show ac voltage while having dc current flowing

But an isolated electrode will show it more clear

Meyer said unipolar pulses meaning that magnetic field don’t flip

Frequency double when the cell voltage flips while the chokes colapse

Voltage will continue to rise and current restrict when it resonates


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Re: My new approach
« Reply #341 on: April 10, 2024, 09:06:22 am »
I found a coil having 360m 30ohm 24awg

It gave in series 20mT with 24v same 19w it has twice the length of the previous

I’m not sure how many turns as is an old coil , is actually two coils in one big glass fiber dormer

It measure 42mh each

As it consumed same current as previous I would bet each coil has 2000 turns or 3000

Connecting them in parallel will consume 75w I bet the magnetic field should go to 75mT

That is almost 10% of what I aimed to have so perhaps it’s worth testing…



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Re: My new approach
« Reply #342 on: April 10, 2024, 18:40:02 pm »
To make the cavity frequency variable I’m going to add a piston that reduce the size of the cavity to increase the frequency…from the bottom




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Re: My new approach
« Reply #343 on: April 10, 2024, 21:25:10 pm »
I found a coil having 360m 30ohm 24awg

It gave in series 20mT with 24v same 19w it has twice the length of the previous

I’m not sure how many turns as is an old coil , is actually two coils in one big glass fiber dormer

It measure 42mh each

As it consumed same current as previous I would bet each coil has 2000 turns or 3000

Connecting them in parallel will consume 75w I bet the magnetic field should go to 75mT

That is almost 10% of what I aimed to have so perhaps it’s worth testing…

nice, Fabio!

are the tubes from iron or 430ss?