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Re: My new approach
« Reply #328 on: April 02, 2024, 00:16:45 am »
I’m not able to put the video go have a look

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #329 on: April 02, 2024, 08:26:30 am »
Who is with me?

Please show up! I’m doing my best to make it quick and simple.

I’m thinking on how cool would be if next month my car can be runing on water

I think with this ultrasonic resonance two things can happen

One is that amps will be restricted as energy is accumulated on the vibration

Second the voltage will rise because of that possibly breaking water on demand directly as meyer said

Or maybe my hypothesis is that it will charge up and than we need to discharge this energy back to be able to generate the gas

In that case we fall into what meyer calls electron extraction circuit and where thermal gas explosion can be increased

Incorporating laser energy and other to further destabilize the molecules and or maintain their ionization level during combustion

The last part I believe nasa and other are already using or maybe it all

I’m going to know when I get their visit kkk

For each cel I believe a voltage of up to 10v can be realistic

So for the whole 11 cell cavity it should give in series a total of 100v if we get 100 amps flow that’s equivalent to 1000 amps worth of gas and I guess exciting is enough t to run the buggy

Now I’m up thinking a way to better glue the spiral to the electrode as it will need to be fixed…

The ideal would be epoxy resin or acrylic directly glued on the electrode…

Perhaps use the 3d to make the mold than than make it with epoxy seem to be the better idea thanmachine it to sizer and find a way to insert on the outer tube rotating so it become a solid transducer fuel cell assembly…

Around it goes the resonant coil that is connected in series with the cell but that resonate in parallel with a acapacitanceresulting on the cell mostly the capacitive part during charge so a high impedance source

The dc part however will work with the magnetic field of the coil in both directions giving thrust to the ions forming the ultrasonic wave

As it builds up current drops further as it become a sort of rotating  magnetic field capacitor and it’s charge is dependent on the magnetic field on the coil vs the amplitude of the wave so magnetic field is not consumable so tomaintain a voltage the only dependence is the amplitude of the wave but energy increases with the square of the voltage on a capacitor

That’s perhaps why meyer says it don’t violate the principles of thermodynamics

So somehow this energy if discharged in a way that actually amplify the wave instead of dampening it than we nailed it!

I nailed it so far… hahaha I’m quite sure otherwise I wouldn’t be spending time on it now!

Hope u have time to get to understand what I’m talking about.
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Re: My new approach
« Reply #330 on: April 02, 2024, 09:22:16 am »
First of all, it is nice work that you did with the printer  :)
As far as i know, vibrations  release gasbubles from the metal surface and that brings more efficiency.
I am not sure if there is another reaction going on with vibrations...

I think that what you are looking for is a system that when you hit it once, the hit will multiply it self by some kind of resonance?
Or is it an electron avalanche effect you are looking for?

For me, Meyers technology is a wierd one. Why? Because he had several different systems. All which were differend.
The two most interesting ones for me are:
* The sphere shaped cell. Why? Because of the hope that some freed electrons will bounce back and forward on the shiny inner surface.
* The EEC. Why? Because Meyer stated many times, that he extracted electrons who are freed by the water it self, by the self ionization effect from water.
* I never read in his docs about vibrations. Sorry.

But as usual: Keep on going! You do creat!

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #331 on: April 02, 2024, 09:51:18 am »
Thanks for the printer compliment… I guess the need is the mother of creativity and I was luck to spend this weekend doing it

I tricked the printer into thinking it’s printing a kind of square and wired the y axis to the rotating axis I prepared using some parts I printed before to perfect center the tube… it was a pain in the ass to get it aligned by the way if anyone is willing to try… I had to kind of manually adjust a lot the printed parts so it would turn correctly… I’m not very good at printing by the way because I don’t have many rules i follow

What I mean with the vibration is that with this combination of design and having the coil resonating outside will result in ultrasound energy being released on water if we have a cavity it will accumulate this energy idenfinetly on resonance

This will supposedly do what meyer said that is restrict the amps and make voltage rise perhaps to the point water simply break apart

I agree the vibrations may be able to take the Bubbles off the electrodes much quickier

I believe when the cell is charged in this manner it’s like a capacitor full of power to discharge if we discharge using a flash lamp for example it would maybe be able to destabilize the gas though

According to the man’s words the electrons must be prevented to reach the other side … being “consumed “ for me it’s simple as using a filament and tube to make the electrons go elsewhere …

Perhaps discharging the oxygen negatively ionized or the exhaust

When you ask about multiplying

First I think the system as a feedback where the energy is used to generate the gas but in a manner where instead of an over voltage applied it generate a voltage output current as gas is generated
Such that this is feedback causing overunity by itself or at least maybe close to 100 percent as possible

But it unleashes the possibility of what meyer talked on since we are now talking his same language

Think the cell as a sobwoofer and a the water bath as the cavity that resonantes






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Re: My new approach
« Reply #332 on: April 02, 2024, 23:52:38 pm »
Would it work without this spiral?

Is possible that it would resonate but only circular but at least one separator need to be there to behave as a cavity closed

Otherwise water will only spin

The difference will be the frequency


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Re: My new approach
« Reply #333 on: April 03, 2024, 10:13:35 am »
This is it 5 turns per helical coil joint together with the electrode forming a solid structure

Now sand it and place inside the cylinder

If a coil with dc is around dc current in the cell will pump ac will make ultrasound

So would restrict ac output voltage also is ac to get gas need to be consumed rectified

If a coil with ac is around the cell it will pump if ac is applied to the cell and generate ultrasound with dc

Let’s see what work better?

If you want the g code for this I let me know

It can be done with whatever printer all you need is some instructions and maybe a second motor to make like I did

The gcode is not perfect as you see some imperfections…maybe my nozzle was clogged

But this is already testable and is what matters now

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #334 on: April 05, 2024, 18:46:22 pm »
Test number 1

Find the magnetic field of the coil

Coil bifilar speaker wire around 120 turns

I discovered that this wire is magnetic it’s very strongly attracted to a magnet without current flowing

Inductance of single wire 814uh same measure adding the other coil in series with one end unconnected 2.634 mh

Total in series 5.094mh and resistance 12,4ohms

With one shorted 32.53uh

Capacitance  2.18nf

The coil is very big so to amplify the magnetic field I’m going wrap around the coil some lamination from a toroidal transformer

This will concentrate the magnetic field on the center as it can flow better now on outside

That way I hope to get close to 1tesla at least half…

I was paying with the gausss meter and found that my neodimium magnets are only 350mT on outside

If very closer to another magnet it gets 1T reading

This vanish with distance fairly quickly

Today I doing few more test with some prototypes I builded for linear thrust…

I think this is what meyer said the audio transformer was intended for

By the way with the early prototype for linear thrust I believe I found a kind of geometry that would allow to have a dc motor with no brushes… and in such a way that it shouldn’t consume any power other than the power to generate the magnetic field so it could be neglected with super conductors for example

I tried to create a toroidal magnetic field with magnets and this is it… if you think about it will have one magnet pointing down while the other pointing high…

Coils can be added in between the magnets to disrupt the magnetic field increasing the power output… also some coils can be wound together with the magnets and it would basically generate ac from the movement relative to the stationary field coil…it goes around the rotating magnets forming the motor/generator







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Re: My new approach
« Reply #335 on: April 05, 2024, 18:55:51 pm »
Test 2 once we know the magnetic field now is time to evaluate the force the electrode is capable of giving to water

For that I have a cell with a water column at side.. the force will be equivalent to the displaced mass of water so we can calculate for it for different currents

Also is possible to apply ac to cell and coil and measure the force under resonance condition

That’s because in this above situations the force will be linear because of the right hand rule of electromagnetism

To get ultrasound than we need to use one of a each kind ac on water with dc magnetic field or ac ac magnetic fields with dc on water

The later should create Stan waveform with restricted amps