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Re: My new approach
« Reply #288 on: October 27, 2023, 11:20:26 am »
Stan vic was a prototype he made in a way that he could exchange coils to compare them working...

Science is easier if you take a good repeatable starting point and take note as you change parameters...

Is worthless to make 10 different coil shapes sizes and test them individually... that's why I think we should cooperate to get a more complete sets of results

That because the conclusion you may get depend on what you were observing to and based on what your knowledge is.. so at same time same result can enlight in different manners

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #289 on: October 28, 2023, 08:55:43 am »
Wouldn't it be nice if it just worked out of the plans?

I was wondering that today...

Think about a flash lamp maybe getting this primary excess current that wasn't coupled ... in parallell with primary with diode or in parallell with the capacitor diode and tvs assembly

This would make it flash right on the spike transitions

Those use the body diode of the igbt in my case...

Anyone ever researched for infrared flash lamps?

The idea with the infrared is to provide vibration to the molecule with an electric field enough to start the oscillation...

Water has a gigantic electric field holding it together only a photon can make it vibrate... or heat

My conclusions are that when the oscillation in the molecules take place the electrons get farther apart from the atoms at some moments and at that point high voltage dc pulse will break all those molecules in the way stan mean... basicaly would be combining the field of the laser with the dc

With 1ppm water you see no gas production at all so that's perhaps one manner

Phonons can also play a role in this I think that's why I believe ultrasonics can be one of the keys to make it work... that along with the evidences of patents we studied this year..


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Re: My new approach
« Reply #290 on: October 30, 2023, 13:12:04 pm »
i started looking at my tesla style bifilar i wound many years ago…

it have 150 turns each coil wound side by side bifilar on a pvc pipe having 3 inches thick 12 inches long with 0,7mm wire (i think was 22 awg)

i notice one thing… if there is imperfections on the wire and in between turns there is going to be reflections there… every impedance change would cause reflections..

the impedance would increase in the imperfection causing a reflection like if it was a open circuit… i guess a long bifilar coil would have enough imperfections to cause a lot of reflections…

this would require a higher voltage input as this reflections increase the input impedance.. Meyer even showed it as staged sets…

i would only make it in stages if i wanted to maybe pulse them in opposite directions at same time or if i wanted a determined set of reflections, maybe this reflections in stages sets creates standing waves there…

He repeatedly say in the tech brief about the bifilar being the most effective in amp restriction..

Does it make sense?

What your point of view about it?

Well my first test may be to discover whats the impedance of this bifilar coil… im going to first find the frequency shorting its ends with an amp meter and pulsing with square

than i will find a resistor that will match it at the end such that the input current is the same as output current… this will give the impedance of the line .. .

from there i will add cores to the coil to see how it affect the impedance and resonance frequency…

will be a nice experiment… im just finishing the pulsing for the alternate square wave to fit on my esp frequ generator.. .so it will drive those powerfull igbts assembly i showed few time ago…

i have the fracture cell circuit that does the same but it analog and i think will be best on digital to get the numbers out … freq.. pulse lenght.. etc… i could do it with labview but to set up would consume time too..

by the way if anyone wants to buy my labview cdaq im selling it… i believe its worth more than 3 thousand dollars… has 4 modules… one counter one with multiple inputs and 2 with multiple mili volts input.. this is a professional data acuisition system.. very cool to use… i just have no time this days to use it.. i need to find someone to help me here on the lab and experiments. if anyone is viewing this from brazil or want to have a nice trip to here send me a pm…

so for my situation i prefere go digital i guess will be easier.. just hope the esp dont keep reseting from the EM interference.. im having troubles using relays with it… perhaps i will rapidly learn how to use shields…

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #291 on: October 31, 2023, 23:14:57 pm »
A non inductive when in resonance with a cap for example

Would oscillate at the resultant inductance of the coupling

If this coils are well coupled the frequency is higher...

But there is a Point where it gets equilibrium between damping and exciting forces... I guess this is Called phase resonance...

Coincidentally matching impedance of would result in a q of 1


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Re: My new approach
« Reply #292 on: November 01, 2023, 06:17:03 am »
Do you remember when I lighted fluorescent bulbs at distance when the high voltage was connected to the cell?

The water seem to amplify the electromagnetic radiation

Is not just like having an antenna

Now if the coil is pulsed around the cell it would capture it?


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Re: My new approach
« Reply #293 on: November 01, 2023, 14:50:38 pm »
High voltage propagates thru water:


I had a flourescent bult that could be lighted under water.

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #294 on: November 01, 2023, 15:08:37 pm »
Yes this is what im talking about…

im not sure if is exactly capacitive coupling only as he describes…  i thought was actually electromagnetic propagation of waves of greater ionization potential than the gas on the lamp that cause the effect.. first because the capacity is mainly on the outside of the lamp!

or course its also capacitive at closer distance … but another reason why it decay is simply they are absorbed by air just like alpha or other types of radiations… as molecules absorb the energy they decay

my sleep problems started when i did this experiments and when i entered a nuclear reactor at university… not sure what caused hahah… i just would use shielding next tests as much as possible…

i would take the 50kv discharge to burn the tips of my fingers at that time now im not willing to do that anymore…

he show a very similar result that i had… it was 10 years ago!

so basically what im trying to point is that we could first give this electromagnetic energy to water..and extract it electrically

and second that perhaps water can amplify the electromagnetic energy by acting as a cavity and as such perhaps giving that little de-phase needed to transform reactive power into real useful power without being consumed or something in that direction… 


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Re: My new approach
« Reply #295 on: November 02, 2023, 17:49:45 pm »
I think the question is what would be the required field to make water glow like the lamp!

the answer to this may be found by adding water into a fluorecent bulb and see if it light after all its fluorescent material in the case of lamp is converting the UV generated to visible!

so if water emit radiation upon reaching state of ionization just as the gas than it would light a fluorescent material similarly!!!

So perhaps we need a better indicator… Maybe place a small cup amount of water inside with an electrode..

at this point of ionization water would be come conductive just as if it was ionized by chemical materials… except the mass of the positive ions will be only hydrogen light and high mobility charge !

not a massive atom ! Water ionized in this way would have similatrities  with a plasma…

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