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Re: My new approach
« Reply #256 on: September 15, 2023, 12:44:45 pm »
Any progress on building, Fabio?

Is testable already I just need find some time

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #257 on: September 15, 2023, 21:10:33 pm »
Inside is just like the drawings---

As you see i used two double diodes just need to add the heat sync ...


Hope the pvc dont deform because of the heat!

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #258 on: September 17, 2023, 23:56:59 pm »
To maximize resonance im cosidering adding the capacitor directly connected to the coil and basicaly shorting the cell with the diodes

This should be able to demonstrate the gas output and electrical output of the cell

This short may be be the primary of an stepup coil to be able to feedback the energy into the system and make it useable

This decouples the operation of the cell making clear what would really happen

I think this is what stan chokes about

Keep it simple stupid

The point now is how much gas will produce

Teoreticaly with super conductor should be possible to achieve at least 99% efficiency

Pure hydrogen is also possible in this manner

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« Reply #259 on: September 18, 2023, 04:29:17 am »
Why in the case of  my water fuel cell design the power is not consumed???

In a  conventional wire electrons flow thru the wire generating a instantaneous magnetic field

In the cell in we have both charge carriers at the electrodes

So when you force electrons out from one electrode and suck electeons into the other from inside the capacitor the molecules will be aligned and it should prevent the flow of the ions or at least retard them a lot makinf this redistribution of ions come from a natural entropy

So it in theory should work as it is

Besides the name similarity this is equivalent to charge by induction but in this case electromagnetic induction

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #260 on: September 18, 2023, 08:30:31 am »
Any progress on building, Fabio?

Is testable already I just need find some time

Great setup, Fabio!
I never seen a coffee machine driven waterfuelcell.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just kidding....

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« Reply #261 on: September 18, 2023, 10:15:09 am »
Ahahahaha Its my kitchen lab... my mom hate me for that but its the best luminosity in the house

Hydrocoffee machine

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #262 on: September 21, 2023, 06:02:46 am »
Some numbers

New coil with just the I core inside give 350uh adding anothe I rise to 500uh


 


With 10nf it resonate at 85khz and reactance is 186ohms so with only 16 amps the capacitor will reach 3000 limit

As the coil has around 50 turns theres going to be like 60 volt per turn!

And if we could short the cell it would give a theoretical max of 16x50 around 800 amps pulse!

Now the problem is 85khz is a lot high and so skin effect may cause the thick coils to heat and also the core and also water itself

The most significant losses should be at  the diodes ...

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« Reply #263 on: September 21, 2023, 23:26:37 pm »
With 1uf capacitor it will drop to 18ohms the reactance

To have 80amps vs 3kv the limit of the capacitor the inductance need to be a little bigger

I hope that adding the rest of the core even witg a very big gap will do the required increment in inductance

This may bring the frequency to 5khz

And the reactance should be around 33 ohms than

Well this coils should be able to induce up to 60 volts on the water turn

Im going to use the renewed pll frequency generator

Conected to the superpowerfull variable dc up to 240v

Than pulsed with a transformer that will feed the resonant coil

I want to use somethinh that is already ready to go so im going to find some random coils from shop and start from there

The core will be that 1" square c core

If i want to raise the voltage further i would need to use more capacitors in series parallel configurarion

The problem is the  cost! To add 3 in series you need total 9 capacitors to have the same f

Otherwise capacitors with higher capacitance could be used instead! Of course the parallell is better since there is going to need more current to get higher voltage

If 80 amps makes 3000 volts to make 9kv with same coil it would need to get 240amps

Im going to be careful to not burn this caps!

Im going to start very slow

The transformer will operate in flyback mode

Im starting to thing that stan waver forms were round becauase he was doing something like what im doing


Another thing to consider is the polarity of the magnetic field i didnt in this case but need to think about later i didnt because the two cells will get halve wave each so i may get both cases... 
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