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« Reply #240 on: July 26, 2023, 01:37:28 am »
Meyer worked on something he called the resistive binder

What if he just made two very high voltage resistors?

one for inside the rod and one outside the tube?

a resistor will cause a electrostatic field upon the application of current

would be the opposite of a capacitor but the field zones would be formed like a magnetic field of a magnet is related to shape…

So maybe the best idea coming to mind would be to use some oil on the inside of the inner electrode and use something to make it very slightly conductive or perhaps use very pure water could help thought but i feel oil is easier to get higher voltages with more controlled conductive properties

this will consume little bit of power but will create some field undeniably in water..

Stan talk about what it seem to me carbon powder mixed with some resin…

the goal is to have around 1 Mega ohm for each electrode capable to dissipate up to 40W each side at least.. i think is different than using high value resistors if is under water but could be a solution if want to try inside the rod maybe under oil

so inside the rod could be a resistor interesting!!

the important is that the current will cause a high voltage zone!!!
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« Reply #241 on: July 27, 2023, 10:58:33 am »
I found some useful resistors

Maybe this company could help

http://www.high-voltage-resistors.com/cylindrical-high-voltage-power-surge-resistors.htm#cylindrical-high-voltage-power-surge-resistors


He says that exactly what I was trying to explain capacitors are the opposite of resistors since inside capacitors the dielectric will form a dipole that will contain all the electric fields inside… a resistor instead can be used in a manner to instead create an electric field outside of it by a current flowing inside…

The electric charge will depend on the voltage and size and shape… and as I stated before charge is force

Electrodynamics studies this
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Re: My new approach
« Reply #242 on: July 27, 2023, 11:37:04 am »
Stanley talk about water being a capacitor but is rather a resistor


He also say if water is charged by an isolated system it takes on an electrical charge

I think he was not talking about the water he was talking about the system or the electrodes more specifically

Cylinders and spheres has the imaginary ground inside

Meaning that if we really want to create isolated electrostatic fields is possible with expense of some small power

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #243 on: August 02, 2023, 00:57:59 am »
This month was really shitty on the sales and so I had to work like a dog to make things change

So I could not work not even a little on the project

Sad about that



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Re: My new approach
« Reply #244 on: August 04, 2023, 02:03:04 am »
I made this quick video to talk about the current flow from the electrodes

I forgot to mention that first the electrodes must have the same resistance reference to ground that will make things easier

What I mean is that the inside of the inner electrode and outside of the outer electrode must give similar resistances to the ground

That can be verified applying like 200v to the water in reference to ground to each electrode separately and adjust their exposure on the bottom side and up side to ground in order to make it close as possible resistance

The differential current that will be there is from the differential voltage that is going to be on the electrodes by setting up high charges on the inner electrode in reference to ground…

The electric field gradiente will cause a voltage that will drive the currents

So counteract this voltage is what is needed to have zero current flow



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Re: My new approach
« Reply #245 on: August 07, 2023, 08:23:09 am »
Sorry for posting so late on your posts, Fabio.
I was on holiday with the family  ;)

First things first. The bif coil must have a load, otherwise no current will flow and no magnetic field will be created and as such, no current restriction will happen, like Meyer said.
Current control was one of his goals.
He didnt want to use a resistor, so the only other logic component was frequency and bif coils. I seen the restriction that a bif coil can create if you hit the right frequency. You see the current go down.
I also saw the hydrogen production go down  :D

cheers!

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« Reply #246 on: August 07, 2023, 21:41:54 pm »
Yes that’s the problem

I’ve made it resonate in this mode too but actually the idea is that even if bifilar a non negligible voltage will appear on the cell due to the geometric configuration and so will induce a current in the coil that will mostly consume power and not allow the charge to keep on water

Basically the idea I’m having is to totally stop the current in that direction

And only allow high voltage charge equilibrares between the electrodes in way to keep charges stuck

The way from ground to cel makes what I call the resistance voltage buildup for the voltage zones

Such that the charge on the voltage zones become very intense

Water must act as a resistance

Consuming some power but allowing a force that will be very strong around the electrode structure

If electrons flow very slow in copper they may flow faster in water?

What if water flows?

In my tests current increased dramatically by adding water flow..

That’s was probably due to reducing the potential of the hydrogen electrode by mechanically taking the gas out from it

But what if current is in the opposite direction of the water flow? Would it get restricted?





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Potential energy is not consumed in an electronic circuit…
« Reply #247 on: September 08, 2023, 01:10:40 am »
Ok

Consider a transformer… if you step up voltage and than step down by having coils direction manipulated

The output power of the transformer will be directly proportional to the output current and output voltage does not Mather what kind of voltages was transformers… of course adding winding adds resistance to the coil and of course losses

But the point is the power output

I’m working on my double resonant cell

I rewinding the super thick wire I as thinking if the cell is simply in the series with the coils and capacitors having opposite voltage simply this won’t be consumed and in case of water it may cause power output as I explained before in this posts with voltage induce from inside the cell it’s going to output hydrogen on the positive and oxygen in the negative electrode…

So what I’m saying water works as a bucking coil in series with the resonant coil that induces the voltage in it… connected thru diodes and the capacitor form the double cell resonant tank…