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Re: My new approach
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2023, 13:08:51 pm »

All the money went into research, is it?
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Re: My new approach
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2023, 16:02:54 pm »
Yes bro… unlike few years ago now I’m working on irrigation systems and so Im trying to get some other sources or money however I get very limited still since I’m starting this business life. Money is limited. so as the time… anyway this thing keeps in my mind and so I won’t wait anymore… I need to keep from where I stop… every night I’m working a bit drawing schematics simulating building stuff etc…

Of course would be just symbolic value for the donations guys just to help and Steve  you are already in automatically!

I spend a lot of money along this years on all this stuff and in the time to work on it and to learn I realized that this is relevant to some people and that I can use help now…

Just for you to see how much goes

Today I bought a dril bit and a thing to make the screw of thecapacitor 100reais

Copper bar to make the confections another 50

Conectores etc 20

The big capacitor 150

Igbts 100

Diodes >200

Each core I’m using costs like 400 I’m using 6

Copper wire 85 500g and need more

Heat syncs 100 already plus some I had

 Dimmer 10kw 100

Is not being really easyzzz if my products were selling I would not really need anything…

This month I’m under with 6k and at the same time is almost impossible to count how much material I have here spending over this years….

Working on changing that situation  18 hours per day!









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Re: My new approach
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2023, 23:42:12 pm »
Today I worked a lot on the power supply… now it’s 78% done… it misses just assembling the igbts and the coolers on place… and make the capacitor bank…

Seems like everything is going to fit in there except for the Vic… it will go in a separate box over it… I’m going to cover everything with iron so that if it explode or something I don’t get hurt…

I remember components exploding when I started my first tests…

I fell like I’m getting close… it appear to me that it will work




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Iron vs copper
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2023, 01:43:34 am »
Iron has less conductivity than copper and it also conducts magnetic fields….


The meaning of this is that a coil made of iron may have a greater charge separation at its tips than a copper coil with same thickness and same field…

If we connect two materials together there Is a potential formed and this mean that electrons flow from one to the other…

In the case of copper and iron it mean copper would get the electrons from iron

Ask chat gpt about it…

As iron has higher magnetic permeability I guess the electrons inside the material are effected like the surface ones…


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The hydrogen and electric energy generator
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2023, 00:25:05 am »
Work is equal to the force times the distance… actually is the product between the force and distance and cosine of the angle


Electrostatic force is equal to k times the product of the charges divided by the distance squared…

The potential energy between this charges is the sum of all the work required to bring the charges to a distance

This potential energy is how much the ions want to get back to the equilibrium…

This equation tells that if we can split the ions into two streams using an electric field the water movement would require work

My ideas on this is that if this ions discharge at a certain level they are going to produce electricity and at the same time produce hydrogen and oxygen…

Lord kelvin water dropper don’t even need an initial charge to start the process this mean that the ions are there or at least some magical free electron haha

So it should be possible to get to work on water if driven up and pumped up

Just need the right geometries materials velocity voltage and ckt

But the main question is how much energy it cost to separate the charges in this manner

Meyer show the equation of the potential of a charge and he show the dielectric value of water in there meaning that inside water the ions has 80 times less attraction force

This is the reason water is a good solvent it reduce the attraction force between the ions forcing them to equidistantly distribute themselves

It’s ions arrange to cancel the field between the salt.

A very pure water will have much greater distance between its ions meaning a lower force between them so the required work to split them apart is lower than a high salt concentration water

If steel wire is better to make the coils to work electrostaticly it could be why Meyer used it



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From the same series of charge from inside
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2023, 12:00:51 pm »
Charge from the middle?

Meyer says that electrons are not used in a cell like in a conventional manner…

I came up to a thought I applied tens of thousands of volts to some diodes and they didn’t burn I guess because the current was not enough for that

Basically if resistance is high enough what happens is that the voltage drop happens on the resistance and diodes has a recovery time where it will allow some back current to happen although not much..


What I mean is what if we pulse the bifilar coils from the middle while having two cells set one at each end with diodes isolating the cells in a manner to make the voltages 180degrees apart

I believe the capacitance of the coils will charge up in this manner with electrons from water cells up to the point it will need to discharge…

Thing is zero volts are applied thru the bifilar

The only voltage that could drive current would be the differential porential of the geometric form of the electrodes

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Re: The hydrogen and electric energy generator
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2023, 17:46:06 pm »
Work is equal to the force times the distance… actually is the product between the force and distance and cosine of the angle


Electrostatic force is equal to k times the product of the charges divided by the distance squared…

The potential energy between this charges is the sum of all the work required to bring the charges to a distance

This potential energy is how much the ions want to get back to the equilibrium…

This equation tells that if we can split the ions into two streams using an electric field the water movement would require work

My ideas on this is that if this ions discharge at a certain level they are going to produce electricity and at the same time produce hydrogen and oxygen…

Lord kelvin water dropper don’t even need an initial charge to start the process this mean that the ions are there or at least some magical free electron haha

So it should be possible to get to work on water if driven up and pumped up

Just need the right geometries materials velocity voltage and ckt

But the main question is how much energy it cost to separate the charges in this manner

Meyer show the equation of the potential of a charge and he show the dielectric value of water in there meaning that inside water the ions has 80 times less attraction force

This is the reason water is a good solvent it reduce the attraction force between the ions forcing them to equidistantly distribute themselves

It’s ions arrange to cancel the field between the salt.

A very pure water will have much greater distance between its ions meaning a lower force between them so the required work to split them apart is lower than a high salt concentration water

If steel wire is better to make the coils to work electrostaticly it could be why Meyer used it


If static electricity charges the cell, would it be detectable by the ordinary oscilloscope probes (connected to the cell)? If not, we are all in the wrong way.

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2023, 19:36:22 pm »
First of all it must be calculated than we must be able to verify how it effects the process… but I think so yes it must be readable