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Re: My new approach
« Reply #192 on: June 25, 2023, 05:55:22 am »
I just realized that perhaps the effect of the coil and the configuration of electric fields set up with the water in my cell

Would be just the perfect to cause pumping action

I think the core would need to be in saturation for it to happen as it may suck up fields lines maybe… or maybe even cancel some within the gap … it’s also not very centered but may be able to resonate if I lengthen the bottom of the cell

I didn’t thought of this before that’s wonderful I was not even relating to it anymore… but it was aways

So now all I can do is to make it resonate electrically at this same frequencies

I may need to do a better design for it to resonate at the same frequency all the stacks…

Luckily I made it to go around somewhere 10 to 15khz i guess

Wow now thinking about it it makes a lot of sense to make it in stacks but in a little different manner than I did since the disc in the middle kind of won’t allow the water resonance … or I could try add a disk bellow and hope it works kkk

No it won’t

As I explained to my self and you the electrodes must sit in a position where it captures the most of displacement

But anyway it may give some results so I will keep on testing with this cell

Ideally the electrodes must be a fraction of the length of the cell to capture only the highest spot of displacement as otherwise the rest of the electrode will not be generating and so it will act as a load not allowing the voltage to rise much theoretically

The fact is that this configuration anyway may have a antiresonant mode!!!!!!!!!!

I mean constructed in this way and having a coils on the outside just having a field would already be the correct environment to make it resonate

When I talk about antiresonant please read the rest of this post as is very interesting discover about welding ultrasonics

Antiresonance happens when the cell act as a generator returning energy instead of absorbing

Just like a parallel resonance the amps are there but from the input perspective it become a high impedance

Just for you to see how things are there are so many ways of building it




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Re: My new approach
« Reply #193 on: June 25, 2023, 13:27:41 pm »
The next version I’m going to make it with air core

And with a thinner pvc tube so it can resonate at a higher frequency

Also it will have only one set of electrodes per tube so I may use two tubes inside the coil

The acrylic may be thinner to have the most of the turn of water it must be just little bit over the radius of the tube so it close the turn it may cover the length of the tube and have a good seal on the junction with the tube to have a nice isolation of the turn?

The mode of vibration is not linear is radial in this configuration I didn’t look at the right hand rule first

Anyway it may work too

This mode of vibration may be possible to detect on the tube wall

I think is a kind of transverse wave that will be generated on the water somehow like a wave in the ocean 








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Re: My new approach
« Reply #194 on: June 26, 2023, 02:21:56 am »
I wonder if anyone is following my crazy methods..

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In the tubular way having a small piece of acrylic cut with the correct width and angle could help the concentric case resonance

Since applying a voltage radially vs a magnetic field of a coil around it would result in a circular force

However if there is no end for the water to beat up it would not resonate at the lowest possible frequency..

It has a higher electrode to water ratio but not all electrode may be capturing the most of the field or maybe not who knows

All this things need to be tested…

I seem to have a tumor growing on my feet that not a great news.. hope it may be just some intoxication or something else not so badZzz


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Re: My new approach
« Reply #195 on: June 26, 2023, 09:23:54 am »
I wonder if anyone is following my crazy methods..

Please write your comments

In the tubular way having a small piece of acrylic cut with the correct width and angle could help the concentric case resonance

Since applying a voltage radially vs a magnetic field of a coil around it would result in a circular force

However if there is no end for the water to beat up it would not resonate at the lowest possible frequency..

It has a higher electrode to water ratio but not all electrode may be capturing the most of the field or maybe not who knows

All this things need to be tested…

I seem to have a tumor growing on my feet that not a great news.. hope it may be just some intoxication or something else not so badZzz

a tumor? Or did you bump your feet against a stone or so?

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #196 on: June 26, 2023, 23:59:10 pm »
It may not be malign but it’s growing… few months ago I dropped a big machine on it

The strange is that is growing on both foots but much more on the right one… hope not a dangerous one…  but it get me thinking anyway


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Re: My new approach
« Reply #197 on: June 27, 2023, 14:15:17 pm »
I just found some interesting German patent contemporaneously registered with Stanley’s patents

DE4238952A1
 

It citations to this book are curious

Can you please take a look and tell me what you think?
KUTTRUFF, H.: "Physik und Technik des Ultraschalls",

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Re: My new approach
« Reply #198 on: June 27, 2023, 22:28:48 pm »


If any of you want to give the technology a gift let’s help to find where in the book he say what is described in the patent

My birthday is 7/1 first July hahaha


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Re: My new approach
« Reply #199 on: June 28, 2023, 16:40:30 pm »


If any of you want to give the technology a gift let’s help to find where in the book he say what is described in the patent

My birthday is 7/1 first July hahaha

What i found:

In the electromagnetic spectrum, macrophysically generated microwaves or high-frequency alternating currents and infrared waves generated by atoms and molecules merge seamlessly. At the boundary point of both vibration systems, ultrasound physics helps us. In the book "Physics and Technology of Ultrasound", pages 19 and 20, a formula for the upper frequency limit of acoustics, namely f 0 =, was derived, which helps to break up chemical bonds. In the case of the water molecule, the water molecule can be broken down into its components via resonance vibrations of the oxygen atom. The resonance frequency f 0 can be calculated as follows:

That is, the one resonance frequency is at Claims at approximately 7.3 x 1012 Hz.
= 7,300,000,000,000 = ?
Do i make a mistake here?



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