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« Reply #112 on: April 20, 2024, 18:03:09 pm »
Is it filtered dc? How much ripple you have?

This can make a huge difference… also the internal resistance of the power supply should be taken into account…

Depending on how you are measuring you could maybe getting rid of the ripples using the coils reducing the peaks

Can you explain more? Or tell how much effect you could compare?

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« Reply #113 on: April 21, 2024, 19:16:14 pm »
Well, for mine, with calculations based on Meyers and Ronnie's, the sum of the resistances of the coils was near equal to the resistance of a tube pair in water.  I don't think that's a coincidence. 🤔

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« Reply #114 on: April 21, 2024, 22:47:47 pm »
As previously mentioned the water resistance must be equal to or higher than the resistance of the coils.  This must be the case for any amount of voltage applied to it because water resistance changes with voltage applied.

Soooo....

You need to know the resistance of one of your tube pairs in water and what the maximum voltage that can be applied before the water resistance becomes lower than the total resistance of your coils.

And then of course build your coils accordingly.
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« Reply #115 on: April 22, 2024, 02:08:55 am »
Make no sense for me… I tried connecting coil in series with the cell for years if you take careful reading you see that the resistance of water is proportional to the voltage aplied to it so if you want to get correct reading you will first need to make sure the voltage on water is equal to the other case including te wave form otherwise is not a fair comparison

That mean you need to apply two different voltages that imply also the source impedance may change

I could bet on it that you won’t get any difference provided the voltage waveform on the cell is the same regardless of the voltage applied

Exceto that if you give over 2kv because it will cause ionization and actually drop the resistance of water

There is nothing a coil can do to the current other than change its waveforms and cause voltage drop

Other than that a coil can do force like I explained on my recent posts

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« Reply #116 on: April 22, 2024, 02:36:27 am »
Do the reading on straight unpulsed DC.  This is how you impedance match the cell to the coils.  You need to find the impedance match of the water with the coils with the maximum voltage you will apply to the primary of your transformer.

I have already done it.  This will be how to get the maximum power transfer to your cell when then placing it on the Vic.

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« Reply #117 on: April 22, 2024, 04:17:29 am »
Check my YouTube channel tomorrow you will see hopefully a demonstration of current being restricted and voltage taking over
I hope to be able to show the  stepped up waveform with double frequency just like Stan show

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I’m starting to  think that those tube cells was only for comparison with.electrolysis

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« Reply #118 on: April 22, 2024, 08:41:30 am »
Do the reading on straight unpulsed DC.  This is how you impedance match the cell to the coils.  You need to find the impedance match of the water with the coils with the maximum voltage you will apply to the primary of your transformer.

I have already done it.  This will be how to get the maximum power transfer to your cell when then placing it on the Vic.

Can you tell us what the efficiency was that you achieved?

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« Reply #119 on: April 22, 2024, 16:33:47 pm »
Check my YouTube channel tomorrow you will see hopefully a demonstration of current being restricted and voltage taking over
I hope to be able to show the  stepped up waveform with double frequency just like Stan show

No magic

I’m starting to  think that those tube cells was only for comparison with.electrolysis

Remember who wins the war tell the story

Who's at war?  I've already done the wave form too.