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Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2019, 11:01:57 am »
I just try to understand Stans process.
He clearly is pulsing DC in stead of strait DC.
I know from my own experiments that the type of gas changes to the better for my test engines when i used unregulated DC.
Stans always claimed that his process is about de-stabilizing the gasses he produced.
So, what happens with the proton, swimming from the anode to the cathode? His bond with the oxygen atom was terminated when the oxygen let go some electrons at the anode.
The proton still feels the kathode and all electrons on it, so it moves towards the cathode. Right?
But, now we terminate the DC pulse. We remove the electrons from the kathode.
What will the swimming proton do? Go up and releases it self from the water bath?

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Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2019, 12:20:50 pm »
There must be a difference in weight between a hydrogen atom and a proton because the 1s electron shields the nucleus of the proton and neutralizes same charge of it.
However, when i google, most of the dummy´s give the same mass for a proton as for an atom.
And the molecule is of course times 2.

Ill guess and i read it also somewhere else that protons have more mass and more energy.

https://books.google.de/books?id=zUldcAIrL5kC&pg=PA154&lpg=PA154&dq=monatomic+hydrogen&source=bl&ots=uUfhS7wE4B&sig=ACfU3U2ug5poUpRwimiLI8IuHA9iy1-Eow&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjY_KKy76_mAhUEShUIHQsxBSg4FBDoATADegQICBAB#v=onepage&q=monatomic%20hydrogen&f=false


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Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2019, 12:31:00 pm »
So, what was Stan doing?
He used very tiny electrodes, at the end.
That makes it easier to send a high voltage pulse, before lots of current follow.
Using the dieelectric properties of water, means using the resistance of about 80 ohms
So, using very short, high voltage pulses .
And when a bit of gas is produced in the wfc, the resistance will go up, very high.
Thats why he used a collapsing coil. That way the discharge into the cell would adjust by it self.
The more resistance, means a higher voltage peak. and a longer duration of that peak. Till all charge has gone from the coil.

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Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2019, 12:35:37 pm »
So, i repeat:

What Meyer explained is that when you start with putting electrical stress to a water molecule and its atoms, you stretch the atoms, for real!!!!!!

You stretch the atoms for a moment.
Each time you stretch or flex the atoms, they release energy. The spinning moments of all internal particles in the nucleus of the atoms are slowing down and release energy.
The equilibrium state is broken.
Then nature starts to compensate and energy flows into the spinning particles, so they start spin again at the same rate as before.
So, if you shoot some voltage pulses into the water, the atoms are getting charged up because this energy flows thru a one way valve....Stans words.
The longer the non equilibrium state, to more zero point energy floats into the atoms for compensation.

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Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2019, 10:07:20 am »
Come on steve where does the extra energy come from? The spacetime is supposed to be torsionless so when the waves move which is what particle spin is they store no energy in the spacetime as torsion

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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2019, 14:23:50 pm »
there is longitudinal mass and transverse mass of particles so the energy you spend to move an atom is more than it's kinetic energy
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2019, 17:04:15 pm »
the magnetic flux can actually be superluminal but thats not possible ... why? because the magnetic flux isn't a real quantity but an end effect of a more complex mechanism

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Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2019, 06:36:26 am »
Meyer talk about the timeshare rate of electrons being changed by the external electric field applied.. He talks about this zero point energy that comes in when we try to slow down the orbit of the electron by distorting it and how it would return to normal orbit energy state by the universal energy coming in.

Penrose calculated that the energy density of space time is tremendous... If u take a look into quincy st clair patents he talk about using fields to distort the space time and manipulate molecules..

I think the covalent switch off is a mechanism still but have to test to see if is real..

I think that horvath used the same path...

It may be about using high voltage pulse in a manner that it switch off the covalent bound in a strong polarized cell

Geometry is key and also circuit design to be able to get the fields where they should and strong enough to happen the covalent switchoff

I believe is about applying a high positive or negative pulse to the inside electrode while having strong electrolysis happening

My idea is that when the molecules are polarized in one direction and you punch it with a reverse polarity pulse of very short duration it would shake the electrons and toss out the hydrogen molecules instead of having to pass current to split them..

Believe is believe and pratic is pratic..

I understand all you wrote steve... I think is correct... But to real flex the molecules some field may be required... We know theres milions of volts electric fields inside the cell at the double layer barrier. Perhapps we could use them