Author Topic: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory  (Read 7144 times)

0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4217
Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2019, 08:52:18 am »
We must remember that whatever the polarity is water is aways attracted to it... You can see in the kelving droper example... Mostly ions will be polarity sensitive but water molecules work diferent.. Of couse molecules are going to align for a field applied slow.. But oxygen detain 8 protons and 8 electrons of its own. So it has 8 more times atraction to whatever field source than each hydrogen atom... If we imagine a molecule perfect aligned and apply a reverse polarity to it very sharp we would expect the molecules to get fisicaly repeled before fliping.. 

If we apply ac or a very sharp pulses like those the fracture cell circuit provides to it we are shaking the electrons inside the oxigen atom provided that the field is realy there!

Geometry and circuit desing is the only way to get such fields mix inside there.

I think the chokes are there for allowing the field to keep the high voltage charge applied in the inside electrode impeeding it from traveling thru the circuit and reach the outer electrode for it to make any efect... The field inside a cahrged holow metal is zero...

Thats my two cents on it.. 

Meyer talk about the diode as a switching diode and blocking diode this mean to me that he apply ac spikes to achieve this!

Also his chokes must be wise in maintain the charge
So winding direction is fundamental too ... I seen shields in high voltage coils for example...


Offline Login to see usernames

  • Sr. member
  • ***
  • Posts: 447
  • let the voltage do the work
Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2019, 09:36:24 am »
Fabio you're not listening to me , the general relativity says that spacetime is torsionless it means that the spacetime has zero skew, imagine a rotating pendulum it has the same properties as a regular pendulum but now the rotational inertia and the elasticity of the string replaces the mass, this rotating pendulum can't exist in spacetime because the spacetime doesn't twist like that however you can still use the linear approach of SR in rotating matter, imagine the electron position annihilation which gives two photons, this means that these particles have the same structure, the electron has charge of -1 , the positron of +1 why is that? the only explanation is that their relative angle is fixed, it means that through natural selection certain matter evolved into what is the electron and proton like complex organism evolved, it also means there are other particles which we haven't explored and this may be true since there are 100s of particles unidentified yet in collision experiments, now the question is what is mass and what is stored in spacetime as mass , there is the rest mass and the relativistic mass or longitudinal mass but there's also transverse mass so in total there are 3 masses and if you count the inertial mass which is not always the same as rest mass there are 4 masses but mass is energy or better yet energy is mass, what is stored in spacetime is energy but like cogs in a clock these don't spin faster on their own, the only way to get the energy out is through fusion or fission it means that the matter waves of the nucleons drop to lower energy states, the matter waves of the nucleons have acquired their energy from creation or the big bang, this is the only spacetime energy you can harvest possibly, the elasticity of spacetime doesn't allow you to store more energy than what you put out, also in experiments if you use wires then the velocity of charges is ultra low some m/s because the wire has billions of atoms as charge carriers the same field creates all fields but with low speed the other fields are almost zero, everyone still things of induction of coils but there is also induction of charges which is what induction of coils is the curvature of the coil adds to induction which is why everyone thinks of induction of curved surfaces, if you do FEMM simulations which uses the 3 maxwell equations of EM but for infinitesimal regions you can get solutions which don't agree with what you get if you do them by hand so to finish with this instead of thinking about wires think about what each charge is doing then add all the fields together, the superposition principle applies to all fields so a cancelling magnetic field is never cancelled

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4217
Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2019, 15:38:15 pm »
did you saw his patents? i mean john quincy st clair?

he show some formula... he proposes that using a combination of fields is possible to calculate in a matrix the curvature generated.. and he says it can be used for thrust and other means

all based in his wormhole generator apparently

is hard to tell how he got this stuff patented talking about contact with other civilizations etc,,,

but i understand what you are saying GEON but i also think maybe theres more than what books tells apparently.. we should try to match some of the hard science knowledge with this claims to try understand whats going on.. when i got back to Brazil and into the physics university was for this reason.. meyer talked the language of science and it seemed the most reasonable way to learn it.. and perhaps understand something more.

if patents never exists maybe we would have time machines by now =D
 

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Sr. member
  • ***
  • Posts: 326
  • Build it. Power it. Use it.
Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2019, 17:24:09 pm »
did you saw his patents? i mean john quincy st clair?

he show some formula... he proposes that using a combination of fields is possible to calculate in a matrix the curvature generated.. and he says it can be used for thrust and other means

all based in his wormhole generator apparently

is hard to tell how he got this stuff patented talking about contact with other civilizations etc,,,

but i understand what you are saying GEON but i also think maybe theres more than what books tells apparently.. we should try to match some of the hard science knowledge with this claims to try understand whats going on.. when i got back to Brazil and into the physics university was for this reason.. meyer talked the language of science and it seemed the most reasonable way to learn it.. and perhaps understand something more.

if patents never exists maybe we would have time machines by now =D

I completely agree with your assessment of st Clair.  He's more than a little 'out there'.  So I have to discount what he presents.  But I don't know that we DON'T have time machines already.  I was recently watching a chem trail jet, and it suddenly jumped quite a ways forwards, leaving a big gap in the exhaust stream.  Just teleportation, or maybe something more?

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4217
Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2019, 11:38:42 am »
when we look at the kelving water droper

the fields are kind of self sustained...

i think we need some strong electrolysis going on served by a isolated transformer thru a pair of common mode chokes made of long thick wire to keep losses low

L2a=L1+Ñturns
L2b=L1-Nturns

L2b is a tap

having this tap at L2 is possible to feed it from a pair of diodes to aways maintain the charge where it should be

aplying ac but having a control and balanced dc content based on the Nturns

when applying high voltage to L2, L1 will replicate the voltage as common mode so the whole cell will go up and high but whatever is the polarity because the action of the diodes  a dc bias would be formed.

the high voltage transformer must be driven by push pull with a time between the pulses to forme the high voltage spike on both polaritities




Offline Login to see usernames

  • Sr. member
  • ***
  • Posts: 447
  • let the voltage do the work
Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2019, 11:31:49 am »
did you saw his patents? i mean john quincy st clair?

he show some formula... he proposes that using a combination of fields is possible to calculate in a matrix the curvature generated.. and he says it can be used for thrust and other means

all based in his wormhole generator apparently

is hard to tell how he got this stuff patented talking about contact with other civilizations etc,,,

but i understand what you are saying GEON but i also think maybe theres more than what books tells apparently.. we should try to match some of the hard science knowledge with this claims to try understand whats going on.. when i got back to Brazil and into the physics university was for this reason.. meyer talked the language of science and it seemed the most reasonable way to learn it.. and perhaps understand something more.

if patents never exists maybe we would have time machines by now =D

this guy writes chakra and another paragraph which wasn't needed "A segment of this hull is designed on a 3D computer graphics program and stored as a stereolithography *.stl file. The file is then transmitted over the Internet to a server who prints up the part on an xy-plotter with an ultraviolet laser and ultraviolet light sensitive polymer bath. The computer model is sliced by a special program into many thousands of slices which are printed one over the other until the part is completed. The server returns the part next day by Express Mail. "
also "By placing the hands on either side of the ball, rotating astral energy flows from the right-hand chakra to the left-hand chakra. The linear momentum of the hyperspace energy crossed with the angular momentum of the astral energy times the lever arm offset above the coil generates an oscillating body torque"

so I get the impression he is trolling although if you neglect all common logic you can turn an atom into photons, the photons can be produced during matter antimatter collision which is electron positron collision, the electron has many information e.x. angular momentum and spin, when the positron and electron unite the angular momentum is cancelled and a wave which has zero spacetime curvature aka no mass is produced aka photon which is an EM wave with an intrinsic clock frequency like all particles, the big question is how is the clock frequency synchronized between all matter of our universe, it means that the starting point of all waves is the same so yes this should come from hyperspace or a 5th dimension which unites the general relativity with quantum mechanics, following from genetic evolution the matter waves formed complex structures after the bang bang and now the funny part is that if you do a parallelism between organisms and our universe, in organisms there are polymerases and ribosomes which create the protein structure in analogy when you shoot a proton with photon which has the same size as the electron and positron the proton creates an electron positron pair!! It can't happen in free space since the angular momentum part of mass was cancelled during the creation of the photon. So a first proton can create all the electrons and protons of the universe, so in order to transfer matter through a wormhole you can shoot the matter with it's antimatter transform it into massless waves and then reshoot it in a mold of matter but then how will the complex structures form again?.. In reality the only thing you could transfer through a wormhole would be simple particles and not complex organisms
« Last Edit: December 22, 2019, 23:32:29 pm by geon »

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Sr. member
  • ***
  • Posts: 447
  • let the voltage do the work
Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2019, 11:52:39 am »
I refer you to podkletnovs gravity beam or something he rotated the ARC



he also said this was like tesla's death ray and got kicked out from where he worked , at least that's what the internets says

for more science fiction in theory you can contruct a wave which has negative spacetime curvature but the same gravitational mass because gravitional mass contracts the spacetime and creates a gradient density which has the same effects on any spacetime distortion not depending on the sign of spacetime density of the particle, this is evident from how photons follow the geodesics of spacetime curvature aka they are bent from gravity and have a zero net sign of spacetime curvature
« Last Edit: December 22, 2019, 12:18:22 pm by geon »

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Administrator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4749
    • water structure and science
Re: Explain Meyers Electrons electronVolts Covalent bond theory
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2020, 19:45:07 pm »
I tried to understand the electron volt thing in combination with water and breaking down water in atoms.

If you consider that there is a resistance in water that slowly giving up if you raise the voltage. Voltage is a potential difference of electrons between two electrodes.
So, you can have  a million electrons waiting on 1  electrode and a lack of electrons on the other electrode who want to suck in electrons from a source.

to be continued.