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S1R9A9M9 18HP Briggs riding mower engine ran on water( 2008)
russrHHO:
New configuration of S1R wire coils assembly from 2008 turns out to really be electromagnet providing extension of timing for mower engine running on water to hydrogen from spark plug electrolysis. It also provides required magnetic field over plug wire , down to plug electrodes. Special wind of 3 wires as - #14 , 7t 90degrees over 5 turns Hi V cable, 13 turns #14 over steel core and Hi V cable. See photos on Internet. The original S1R9A9M9 (2 )You tube videos showed Inverter box in background, not hooked up. That green 400Watt box was the same one normally used with the several earlier car engine conversions. Statement said it could not be used with 4 cycle mower engine. The real reason of this, was that the SiZE of box could not be hidden in hole of cement block with engine shaft. (A smaller 300Watt unit was used.) This smaller box fits cement block hole. The other plastic deli tub of parts, hanging on side of engine, was also painted over so we could not see in. Therefore the 3 technicians did not want to reveal all their technology from 2005-2019. Part of DC current , supplies the primary side of inverter , while several amps dc runs the electromagnet. Battery start. Battery fully removed. The circuit then ran on the dual type alternators with max 15 amps output DC, after rectification. The high resistance of salt water at plug tips requires about 100 volts to get current to push through.The cars used 6-7 Peak amps at low duty cycle. Nathren used 10 amps PEAK DC as about 1 amp average current. See videos with Briggs 18HP riding lawnmower engine on cement block running on water flow to carb. Self running using Hydrogen gas + water vapor pressure. Low power of course but works.
russrHHO:
I am currently collecting original tech statements for my new file folder on JUST readings from Nathren, non technician, and Son as technician also same name Nathren. Father signed in on forum as S1R or S1R9A9M9. The son signed in as Nathren. You can tell the difference in the writing quality. Not using statements from other technicians. Data has to be from the horse's mouth. Mr Ed could do better. Two views on this was (1) Hydrogen generator at spark plug from using Briggs dual alternators power after 18HP Briggs engine up to Idle speed. 10 amps flow current direct from alternators output.
(2) Special circuit applied as RESONANCE between the water capacitor at plug gap + L coil Inductor in series as being equal and adjusted, to the input AC alternators frequency at idle speed RPM. The Magnetron as negative high volts out goes through the S1R coils assembly and fires an accessory spark gap and connected to ground through the outer extension cord with end plug breached. There is over 100volts formed on low voltage side of S1R coils by leakage inductance intentionally made. You already know that. The 100v and alternator AC is applied to the "cell" spark plug gap of salt water capacitor.
The Briggs plastic ring alternators have the opposite end of magnet wire grounded on bottom side of ring to the engine casting top. The bottom of spark plug is grounded the same to casting. I was guessing both ends of output wires put together to get 10amps from 5 +5 amps. One line going to plug, and casting travel for the return to opposite end of ring 2 wires. The brown extension cord becomes the usable ground for any other spark gap in the deli plastic tub hanging on side of 18HP.
The original 2008 Youtube video from "the Smack", - man that looked over the wild claims, said that Nathren mentioned resonance phenomena using coil + spark gap resonance. The idea was that the resonance allowed for fast expansion of polarized NEGATIVE water vapor as over charged with electrons. The molecules repel each other. Process happens at lower piston travel under change of compression, at late timing ATDC. So......... The AC power flow is through low voltage side only , through the inductor adjustable, and to the salt water capacitor spark plug. The extreme high volts not needed. My old file on this method I had labeled "Induction type power supply" Diodes cannot be used as stopping any resonance.
My current problem is figuring out how engine was originally started / fueled in 2008, to get to IDLE speed since there is extremely low volts and current from alternators at time of engine cranking, at lowered RPM of flywheel and 12 magnets. The temporary Battery DC, before being disconnected in 2008, has power and needs DPDT relay ac vibrator buzzer with frequency adjustable by capacitor used, to make AC for starting purpose. The on/off dual sets contacts pass the changing direction current. A low frequency transistors INVERTER would work also at 13-14v AC. The transformer 12 to 14 volts AC may need to be hand wound. The Inductor would be sliding adjustable inductance bolt inside plastic tube as wrapped with magnet wire.
I did an outside test of old push mower engine using PVC T fitting and hose connected to carb. Center stuffed with metal screen and filled with CARBIDE STONES. Poured water on stones. The engine started fine and sounded just like gasoline engine. The acetylene gas formed pulled into combustion chamber by manifold vacuum. I wonder!............. Tell me that you read my message.
russrHHO:
Proof That Nathren's Briggs Engine Had Dual Alternators!!!
You Tube Smack investigates claims of S1R9A9M9 time 6:03
Briggs 18HP has alternator cable hangs down behind starter motor and oiling tube. See cable against metal casting, see white 2 piece wire connector, and 2 wires there.
Long time back I directly asked Nathren about engine serial number to get capabilities such as alternator. He flatly denied that it had alternator under flywheel. He even said there were no magnets under flywheel. He started protecting his + shop technicians invention.
Steve:
amazing that you keep finding new stuff .
Keep on going!
Steve:
My current two cents:
If the videos are real and that little motor was sucking water into the carburator and if it is true that no other substances have been in that waterbottle, like alcohol, then the only thing left is an electrical system that prepers the waterdrops, like by partially ionizing orso, and then apply a powerfull spark to that drop of water in a specific speed on which the water has time to react and explodes.
All those strange coils can mean anything, or are decoy.
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