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the nitrogen discussion
« on: February 06, 2014, 21:33:10 pm »
Hi,

Have a look at this old document.
On page 361 its clear that nascient hydrogen bonds with nitrogen.
This makes ammonia. Ammonia is solvable in water.........
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Re: the nitrogen discussion
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2014, 01:09:44 am »
ammonia is hydrolized in water

NH3+H2O <=> NH4+ + OH-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process

ammonia isnt easy to make maybe inside engine with high pressure?? don't know
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Re: the nitrogen discussion
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2014, 08:51:42 am »
the thing is that nitrogen sources and water form NOx oxides with form HNO3 which turn most balanced equations that make nitrogen compounds to the wrong side because of le chattelier principle.. this ammonia synthesis is quite hard...

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Re: the nitrogen discussion
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2014, 23:29:52 pm »
the thing is that nitrogen sources and water form NOx oxides with form HNO3 which turn most balanced equations that make nitrogen compounds to the wrong side because of le chattelier principle.. this ammonia synthesis is quite hard...

Yes. But i am very curious if this might work.
Electrolysed hydrogen atoms bonding with nitrogen or carbons....
If that can work in the waterbath....

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Re: the nitrogen discussion
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2014, 08:30:01 am »
you can make ammonia straight in an electrolysis cell or other nitrogen compounds

The method of claim 1 wherein ammonia is produced via the reaction of a nitrogen source fed to the cathode side and a hydrogen equivalent source such as carbon monoxide or a mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen rather than high-purity hydrogen

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Re: the nitrogen discussion
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2014, 08:31:20 am »
other research uses nafion membranes and alloy catalysts to make the electrolysis cell so it's expensive..