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Re: Purpose for variable choke in VIC
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2012, 19:40:37 pm »
About the lights string this fact is new to me. I still strongly believe is only about contact resistances and non equal share of temperatures. If it do behave as you described, those close to ground are dimmed? How do you explain that? If you are using a battery to feed them, what happens if you touch the battery positive to earth ground? what if you simply revert the polarity?

The greater the temperature in a filament the greater or lower is its resistance?

There is a cumulative resistance.  Think about the effect of voltage across multiple resistors inline.  The voltage across each resistor takes a piece of the voltage when you measure at each point.  If you were to measure for voltage across two of the resistors you would get the value of R1 + R2.  The same with the lamps.  Each has resistance.  Measure the voltage across L1 and then across L1 + L2 together.  Whatever value you get subtract from your source voltage and you end up with the amount used by the remainder combined.  If the 9V lamp cannot get the volts needed, it cannot illuminate correctly.

Etc, etc.

The only way to ensure components in a circuit get the same amount of volts is to hook them up in parallel.

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Re: Purpose for variable choke in VIC
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2012, 19:46:36 pm »
Thanks

Thats clear for me now.


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Re: Purpose for variable choke in VIC
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2012, 19:51:24 pm »
Once i made a series cell with around 30 plates and connected the battery only to the end plates, the result was that only the end plates generated gas but i attributed this to the fact that they were all sitting in water and that probably the current preferred to leak thru the water than follow the plates route.

My first water cell trials were using SS wire.  My second cell I tried making an elaborate coil of about 50 feet in length. However, I found once applying 12V to it that only about a third of it would make HHO.  I was baffled by it until I started measuring the volts at various points along the wire.  I discovered that the volts kept going down the further I went down the wire until it stopped making HHO at around 2.2V.

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Re: Purpose for variable choke in VIC
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2012, 19:55:53 pm »
You made a 50 feet SS coil and applied dc to it under water?

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Re: Purpose for variable choke in VIC
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2012, 20:02:35 pm »
You made a 50 feet SS coil and applied dc to it under water?

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Yes.  Made a plexiglas scaffold and wound the wire through it in such a way to make use of the space effectively without it touching.   The SS wire was the electrode that the gas came off of.   I'll dig it up and post a picture later.  Something I made 6 years ago.

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Re: Purpose for variable choke in VIC
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2012, 20:36:54 pm »
ah I understood, i've saw that stuff 4 years ago, I had an italian friend who payed 1200 euros for one from a Romanian guy. He had this installed at the car and claimed some better millage. When i told him that the wire was ss and not platinum like the guy said he felt like a fool.




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Re: Purpose for variable choke in VIC
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2012, 19:52:14 pm »
Presumably, in the VIC the choke is designed in such a way so as to completely limit current only to the point that the current doesn't pass the choke.  However, since the voltage is leading the current by 90*, the voltage still does leave the choke, even though the current does not.  There must be a zone where if the impedance of a choke is too high that the voltage does not pass or too low that current still does.  Is this the probable reason for the choke on the negative side (the current source) being variable?

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the original design was two separate chokes and they could not be wound identically as relates to resonant frequency being the same for both, thats why there is a variance on one of them, to match the other.

later design has them wound together, bifilar, at the same time...etc. so the resonant frequency matches exactly

the purpose of the choke is to hit it with its inductive capacative resonant frequency in a fashion as to restrict amps and produce maximum voltage potential across the water fuel gap

its all about the resonant frequency of the choke !!!!!! thats what restricts amps on each side

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Re: Purpose for variable choke in VIC
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2012, 20:01:05 pm »
For me there are two fixed walue chokes and a third wariable one connected to a hidden component across the circuit. The purpose is to balance the unipolar pulses into the cell... And is adjusted according to waters dielectric properties... The woltage across the cell is 180° dephased with pulses coming from the secondary but have the same polarity.

this is my theory of what was he doing...