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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2010, 16:05:21 pm »
Like I said a while back,the one thing that I noticed when I got to see Stans work was that everything he said was just how it looked.Meaning I did not see anything there that was not in his writings.I did not see anything there that he did not talk about.If he didn't talk about it,it wasn't there.
 
The VIC coils were just as he described them.The resonant cell was just as he said.There was no other capacitors in the VIC circuit.The coil pack seen in my videos hooked directly to the cell.Alot of people are making this thing way too complicated.Remember Stans KISS method?
 
People seem to be going way overboard on their thinking here.Their making it more complicated than it is.I see the process working just as he says it does.He descibes the process very well.Others seem to think that it's alot more complicated than it is.Alot of people seem to be over complicating things.More people need to be testing more, than thinking about how it might work.Alot of talking,and not much testing.
 
I have made my coils just as Stan says,and I have been able to make high voltage on the water.Just take a look at my pic below.So just follow Stans words and start testing.You will learn alot.
Don
 
 

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2010, 19:16:38 pm »
HV on the water and no bubbles is exactly what we want, only thing which is needed is tuning the HV pulses so the water will resonate mechanically.

Did you use SS-wire, Don?

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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2010, 20:56:04 pm »
Alan,yes the next step now is to tune into the water resonance.I'm working on a new pwm that will help with that part.
 
I use only copper magnet wire.Stainless isn't needed for this VIC coils.This coil set when in resonance only pulls 20 milliamps.And the resonance is @ 10khz
Don
 
In order to find this voltage,you'll need an oscilloscope.If you don't have one,you can still find it with a flouresent bulb like my pic shows.You can hook one end of the tube up to one side of the cell and adjust frequency untill you get the light as bright as it will go,and your at resonance. 
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2010, 23:50:26 pm »
Dynodon, What do you think of making a vic like that with electrical steel core, like the stuff I bought off of you?
Any comments on the function of the circuit that is in between the coils and around the sides?

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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2010, 01:35:47 am »
Donald,the laminate material could be used,but it may not work as good as ferrite type.It might saturate at the higher frequencies the cell needs to resonate at.You could try it,it can't hurt.
As for the the coil pack,there isn't any circuits on that card.There's a 5 volt regulator,and a 2n3055 transistor for the voltage amplitude control circuit.There was a resistor in line with the primary,thats not in Stans original schematics.The blocking diode is there too,the one Stan said was used.Thats all there is on that card.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2010, 06:52:39 am »
Was the primary also 29-30 guage?
Thanks DynoDon, that is the picture I have been looking for.
My machinist tells me he finished the test cell.
I have been testing out a coil pack with laminate steel with small results.
 

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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2010, 12:05:10 pm »
Hi Don
First of all thank you for the detailed picture of the VIC.
There I can see an LM340 5v regulator and a 2N3055 power transistor (marked in red in my pic A22 and Q4)
I cannot locate the diode. Is it hidden underneath the 2N3055 or is that big black rectangle outside and under the box WK S22A2T ?
 
Now correct me if I`m wrong:
1) I assume that the serial pc connector is going to the pll circuit which may be another box located in front of this one.
2) I assume that the 4 bolt connections on top are: (marked in orange in my pic)
·                    Positive supply(+12v)
·                    Negative ground
·                    2 output connections to cell

3) I can see some other transistors / mosfets / resistors in the box which may be for Q5, Q6, Q7, Q8, Q9
4) I assume that the parts in the VIC box are the ones located inside the cryan perimeter. Signal connections from this box to the externals circuitry is going through the 'Serial PC connector' and some I marked them as green dots.
Please correct me If I’m wrong.
HM

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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2010, 21:51:27 pm »
I'm curious about the wire gage of the primary too, when i made my version of this coil i had to change the primary and i'm not really sure what the target is, i think it may be a good project for me to try this again, after exams...


any measurements of inductance on these coils?