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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #344 on: April 18, 2011, 04:19:54 am »
Just forget about the last C circuit

Ali, all the circuit boards are labeled with the K1-K21
Don

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figure 7 refers to K22 which is Figure 8...

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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #345 on: April 18, 2011, 07:12:02 am »
can someone share fig 7 and fig 8 on multisim 11? I think with those 2 circuits  I can continue .

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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #346 on: April 18, 2011, 08:01:31 am »
I can get ya figure 8, but figure 7 is gonna be a no go. The reason for this is because Multisim or any other simulation that I have seen doesn't have the 4046 PLL IC's.  Here's figure 8.

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4046 to the rescue...
« Reply #347 on: April 18, 2011, 08:27:12 am »


here is a 4046 subcircuit i developed just for Stan Meyer experimenters...Enjoy...

( open the file and look at the tab below, it will open an additional page with the subcircuit for the 4046 part i created)
using a data sheet and basic components we can create just about any part we wish, using existing parts and models.... these are known as Subcircuits...
simply search the help files and follow the directions
The actual graphic on the first page links to the parts on the second page via global connectors... or something similar, i forget its been a while since i made this subcircuit...

I think you have to keep the 4046 subcircuit files in the same folder as the rest of your circuit and copy it when you move the simulation as well...if you ever want to move to a faster desktop system
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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #348 on: April 18, 2011, 08:28:57 am »
I can get ya figure 8, but figure 7 is gonna be a no go. The reason for this is because Multisim or any other simulation that I have seen doesn't have the 4046 PLL IC's.  Here's figure 8.

Thank You again Mr.Tony ...  and Mr.Ali hmm  thats cool i just ran out on the education edition and installed 11.01.... man i iwish i had known that yesterday .Ill start ordering parts soon.
 
Do yall know what part number is Q4 and Q5 on figure 4? It acts like on the sim the voltage wants to go to inifinity on that circuit.
 

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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #349 on: April 18, 2011, 08:36:33 am »
Thats a darlington pair configuration of BJT's

so a single Darlington Pair part should do the trick
make sure the datasheet indicates the corrcet maximum switching speed and the base current is double what is required as well as the load current through the emitter / collector...etc.

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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #350 on: April 18, 2011, 09:27:17 am »
I`v built fig12 and fig6 on breadboard, and noticed that at the output from A26(74122) duty cycle is not fully variable, it varies in steps. Is that as it should be ?
I attached the waveforms i`m having at some points of the circuits

HM
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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #351 on: April 19, 2011, 06:03:27 am »
I`v built fig12 and fig6 on breadboard, and noticed that at the output from A26(74122) duty cycle is not fully variable, it varies in steps. Is that as it should be ?
I attached the waveforms i`m having at some points of the circuits

HM

the very last 20 seconds of your video shows the correct action of the duty cycle of the gated signal.....this gated signal will be overlaid or superimposed on top of the pll output so that the pll frequency (whatever that ends up being, based on what kind of water you use) will only show up under the square waveform but not on top of it
The gate signal blocks out a percentage of it per cycle
(you may already have guessed that, but im stating it here for beginners)
looks good... nice sharp corners, clean signal

if you dont use signal K or the safety circuit (figure 11), you can leave out the extra parts between the 74122 and output "A"