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I was assuming from what we know about the dune buggy on the papers stan show 4amps 12v. 40kv 1ma .. So i assumed being 11 vic coils, and as he was using 2n3055 transistors he might have used about max 1 amp per vic... Well just guessing.


I was meaning air coil in the sense that the amount of core i see in the picture is not enough for more than 1 amp..  So he might have used the core only to link a bit the coupling. The charging chokes are loosely coupled in my view. While the secondary seems well coupled.


As from the experiment i described with the magnet, seems to me that stan was coupling maybe half from the core and half the air it self. By the position proximity relating to the primary coil.


When i have some more time i will try this approach. However first i will tryout my complement resonance theory.


Br
Fabio

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Don do you have a picture of the other board this connects too?

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Donald,an LC calculator says that a 1.948uH inductor will resonate at 10khz with your 130uF cap.
Don

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The coil pack plugs into the back of the control panel.Pic added,thats the only one I have.
Don

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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/323vicinductance.png)

yea I was thinking, ran that calculation too, and then decided to measure my vic again, that i made based on this design, the coils are about 2000 turns of 30 gage on a flyback core and the inductance comes out in the perfect range

this coil, i haven't had luck pulsing it properly, maybe i will rewind the primary with 30 gage too, and then try when i get my pulsing circuit sorted out...

still thinking of making a new vic with the electrical steel, even closer to stans, the coils on this vic are not identical, and i could have taken much more care in winding them so they would be the same, the inductance on the other coils is a bit lower

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thanks for that pic, i have seen it before when you posted it in a different topic, i was hoping that you might have one if the inside of it to help complete the picture a bit more, thanks though

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whoa wait a minute, that 1.9 uH, not 1.9 H, i am way off, what's going on here? *thinking brb*

... it's 97 mH without the core, any ideas?

1.95 H and 130 uF will resonate at 10 Hz, could 10 Hz be the gate frequency, while 10,000 Hz is the pulse frequency? in the patent he says 0.5 Hz gate frequency for that vic which sounds like an extremely low gate freq


say my vic has 6 H (2 from each choke and the secondary) then the inductive reactance at 10,000 Hz is

XL = 2piFL
                                                        = 2  x  3.141592653  x  10  kHz  x  6  H
                                                        = 4E+05 ohms                           (to 1 significant digit)
                                                        = 376,991 ohms                          

thats pretty huge, to restrict amps


http://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Plate-Capacitor-Calculator.phtml
measured the cell without water, so just air, and it is 25 picoF
also, calculated with air, it is 25 picoF

calculated with dielectric constant of 80 gives 2100 picoF or 2 nF

to get a calculated 130 uF, it requires a dielectric constant of 5 million

so clearly there is a difference here some how

2 nF and 10kHz gives 126 mH for res

does anyone else have some measurements and calculations to compare?

assuming 2nF is in the right ballpark, and 2000 turns of 30 gage is in the right ballpark, and i get 97 mH without a core, and Stans core was tiny, then maybe my core provides too much increase in inductance, and with a smaller core i might be closer to the 126 mH value compared to 97 mH with air-core

so maybe, the numbers work, it's just knowing which numbers to work with 

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You have nice coils Donald,


You should try them with iron powder core, you can take some glue or a resin and mix with iron powder. Than you make the core the way you want.


I would make a core just like stan had, C cause is easier, i'm using a flyback core, and EE cores on my experiments, with interchangeable bobbins.


I'm realizing that resistance on the primary wire is something necessary for a well design transformer. Actually maybe is the most important thing, cause you can maybe kind of create relativistic effects.


Once i saw a patent witch claimed a device to create a wormhole... I think now i see what he was pointing, electromagnetic waves travel at the speed of light or near, so if you manage to create a cycle for the waves, kind of make it ring in circles, as the waves travel in the speed of light when they finish the turn they will meet the waves in the past, cause it is moving at speed close to the speed of the light so is traveling into the time kind for the same time we think we are looking to the electromagnetic wave, "she" is also looking to us however, for she the time is passing really slower in reference to our time. Like very very ultra low frequency. So low that is like permanent in nature, just like the magnets, the earth. You might have heard about  the polarity of the earth will reverse on 2012 and that is true the north will become south and south will become north not yet, actually the north will become real north as it was already south and the south, well south.


I think that if we could calculate the difference in time relative to the electromagnetic wave, and for our third dimension time, would be possible to create a resonance coupling this oscillation of the time due to the electromagnetic interaction. All than needed will be A kind of circle that traps and directs the electromagnetic waves. Waveguide. Than is all about circulate waves there, and harvest energy from the time space electromagnetic door.