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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #264 on: March 15, 2011, 02:38:20 am »
Ali,the scan from this circuit took about 3 seconds like Tony says.I seen it working first hand.And the scan didn't go from 0-10khz.It had a center adjust pot on the board,that allowed you to raise or lower the frequency range.For example the the scan may go from 2khz to 8khz,then if you adjust the pot up so it starts at 4khz than it will go to 10hz.So it could go as low as 0kz and up to 10khz,but not in one setting.
 
Tony,the 4017 weren't even hooked up on this board and they don't effect the output in any way.
 
Ali,the cap is a 10 uF.I have a better picture of it.
 
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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #265 on: March 15, 2011, 03:38:01 am »
yea I noticed that there was no connection to the 4017's....My guess based on Stan and Puharich's writings is that the center frequency is 3980 Hz. So if you have the frequency set to scanning a range of +- 2000 hz from this center frequency it would be 1980 Hz - 5980 H. By setting it up this way you will have waveform that would look like the image below and it would peak at the center frequency.
(http://www.globalkast.com/images/tonywoodside/Freq_Burst.png)

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« Reply #266 on: March 15, 2011, 04:44:11 am »
I think the scanning circuit can work much faster than 3 sec.


I think that i drop into something here check this out and tell me what you think.


What if we make tx2 + tx4 (mutual coupling) = to tx5 coil


(tx5 is field adding too)


So now we have two coils of equal length.


they converge where the tx5 meets tx2 and in the tubes.  (a diode could be used there to block the discharge in reverse polarity but maybe is not needed, however stan used this in the vic sink circuit.


If you make the outside capacitance to be connected to this point where tx5 meets tx2 you close a unipolar resonant pulsing core. And i explain to you why.


When the pulse is first applied there will be B+ in the cell and a B-  But the outside container will be at 0v relative to both potentials. Obviously will be more positive than the negative and more negative than the positive. Now if you think of the diode you will notice that when the pulse terminates I think that the positive will become negative source of electrons so they will go toward the 0v... creating another pulse of same polarity...


Would be useful to add another coil in a separated induction core between the vic and the outside of the cell so you can reduce the frequency while not changing the ratio between the tx coils. i think that would be what stan call the amp inhibiting coil. Also in the alternator.


I noticed some similarities...


I think that both chokes and the secondary acts not only as secondary but as a primary also during pulsing operations, inducing and being induced, the diode and the configuration allow the field to be unipolar therefore never changing direction if at resonance, varying the flux still by the pulses and resonance itself but never changing direction.


would be clear that a way to detect if there is bipolar pulses would be a good way to detect resonance. But i still think that this could be only used as a reset, cause the best way to have a nice feedback would be to get it from a current transformer, or a coil wounded in the bipolar resonating coil tx6 amp inhibiting coil.


The tx5 i supposed that should be little bigger than the other two cause this would encourages the discharge to come thru the other electrode. Well, i don't know, need to do more experiments. Tomorrow i will try some other things. Maybe thats why he talked about acomodating to the contaminants of the water. Maybe depending on the water the tx5 coil must be bigger or smaller than tx2+tx4 and also both this could maybe need or not other coil configurations....




So
tx1 primary
tx2 secondary (having its positive connected to a diode D1 and the negative connected to the positive of the tx5 choke thru a diode or not)
tx3 pulse indicator coil
tx4 resonant changing choke, (the diode D1 coming from secondary positive is connected to the negative side of the tx4 choke, the positive side is connected than to the outer tube )
tx5 resonant charging choke (have its negative side connected to the inner tube, and its positive connected to a diode D2 witch is than serially connected to the negative side of the secondary and to tx6 coil.
tx6 amp inhibiting coil (in a separated core) connected between the point where tx2 negative side and the diode D2 meets and also connected to the earth ground.
tx7 tuning variable coil (connected between tx5 coil and the cell)
 
The cell must have a copper foil around it to form the resonant capacitor. This copper foil is connected to earth ground to complete the resonant circuit. 


The tx6 coil could have a section of the primary wounded on it, this would help to neutralize the voltage for the next pulse.


thats all folks


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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #267 on: March 15, 2011, 21:27:13 pm »
Heres another pic
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« Reply #268 on: March 16, 2011, 02:18:23 am »
Figure 9 Pulser Indicator circuit verified using multisim 11
See attached circuit:
enjoy
(@ don, @ tony...hope it meets with your approval)

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« Reply #269 on: March 16, 2011, 02:49:34 am »
Figure 9 Pulser Indicator circuit verified using multisim 11
See attached circuit:
enjoy
(@ don, @ tony...hope it meets with your approval)

Hey Ali, try this one out. only half the feedback coil was being used.

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« Reply #270 on: March 16, 2011, 11:17:32 am »
Hi Tony,
can you upload the file in multisim 10 format because I can not open it with version 10 ?
 
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Re: WFC VIC
« Reply #271 on: March 16, 2011, 12:44:02 pm »
Figure 9 Pulser Indicator circuit verified using multisim 11
See attached circuit:
enjoy
(@ don, @ tony...hope it meets with your approval)

Hey Ali, try this one out. only half the feedback coil was being used.

 
I wish i knew electronics cawz ive been searching this week how to get the waveform u made with that adding em together :)