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The Electric Sky By Donald E Scott..
« on: September 11, 2010, 04:44:10 am »
http://members.cox.net/dascott3/index.htm

i started reading this book and this guy went to school for electrical engineering and was a professor at a university for 39 years..

in this book he explains how present day astrophysics  is based off ideas of people that dont know the basics of electric and all there theorys are unprovable and is psuedoscience for the most part.. i got the book expecting to maybe find some answers... he explains there are 3 different current modes in plasmas..  dark current mode, glow current mode and arc mode.. the graph he uses to show the difference is based off current and voltage within the plasma...  his example of the dark current mode show voltage climbs exponentialy as does stans drawing...

i just started reading yesterday so still more to come,, maybe a light bulb will turn on or somthing..

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Re: The Electric Sky By Donald E Scott..
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2010, 23:31:18 pm »
Extremely Interesting

Stan says "The physicists do not want to consider what is going on in the sun" (or something close to that) in the NZ video

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Re: The Electric Sky By Donald E Scott..
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2010, 23:39:31 pm »
(http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2009/image09/090909electricsun.jpg)

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Re: The Electric Sky By Donald E Scott..
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2010, 14:58:36 pm »
Excellent find outlaw! Thank you!

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Re: The Electric Sky By Donald E Scott..
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2010, 05:14:50 am »
buz this is a example of how a  Dr. hannes alfven  sees the sun...  from what i have read about him so far is he is one that fought back in the day to correct astrophics flaws but no one would listen.. he explained to them they are traveling a deadend road with there pseudoscience..

i think stan may of created birkeland currents..

there is a eqaution called maxwell-lorentz equation

d/dt (mv) =q (E + v * B)

this equation defines the time rate of change in momentum..

from what i read stan says in his patent the ions are oscillating back and forth the negative oxy ion shoots toward the positive plate but when terminated ruberbands back in the other direction toward negative.. power on again to deflect the negative charged ions (ion = voltage that is being deflected) particle oscilation = ions aka birkeland currents..) i think separated gas ions will oscillate in a helix momentum exitiing the tube.. the negative and positive ions forming the expelling helix of ruberbanding oscillation due to voltage deflection of the ions during pulsing..

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Re: The Electric Sky By Donald E Scott..
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2010, 01:53:35 am »
Hi outlaw, equations are not my best language. I don't know enough about birkeland currents to make the connection to the equation. Sorry... But, from what I have read so far, My world has had a new understanding of how the universe may work. Very inspiring concepts!

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Basic Properties
Modes of Operation
There are three distinctly different steady state modes in which a plasma can operate:
1. Dark Current Mode - The strength of the electrical current (flow of charged particles) within the plasma is very low. The plasma does not glow. It is essentially invisible. We would not know a plasma was there at all unless we measured its electrical activity with sensitive instruments.  The present day magnetospheres of the planets are examples of plasmas operating in the dark current mode.
2. Normal Glow Mode - The strength of the electrical current (flow of charged particles) is significant.  The entire plasma glows.  The brightness of the glow depends on the intensity of the current in the plasma. Examples: Any neon sign. Emission nebulae. The Sun's corona.
3. Arc Mode - The strength of the electrical current in the plasma is very high.  The plasma radiates brilliantly over a wide spectrum. Current tends to form twisting filaments. Examples of this mode of operation are: An electric arc welding machine. Lightning. The Sun's photosphere.

In all three modes of operation, plasmas emit measurable electromagnetic radiation (radio frequency noise). At any given time, the current density (Amps per square meter) existing in the plasma, determines which particular mode a plasma is operating in.  The atomic structure of the gas that became ionized to form the plasma in the first place also is a factor in this.

Oh, ok... here's a descripton of birkeland currents...

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The Z-Pinch
Electric current, passing through a plasma, will take on the corkscrew (spiral) shape discovered by Birkeland. These Birkeland currents most often occur in pairs. There is a tendency for these pairs to compress between them any material (ionized or not) in the plasma. This is called the "z-pinch" effect.  The ability of Birkeland currents to accrete and compress even non-ionized material is called "Marklund convection".

And then the equation...

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Ninety nine percent of the universe is made up of tenuous clouds of ions and electrons called electric plasma.   Plasmas respond to the electrical physical laws codified by James Clerk Maxwell and Oliver Heaviside in the late 1800's.  An additional single law due to Hendrick Lorentz explains the mysterious stellar velocities described above.
d/dt(mv) = q(E + v x B)
Simply stated, this law says that a moving charged particle's momentum (direction) can be changed by application of either an electric field, E, or a magnetic field, B, or both.  Consider the mass and charge of a proton for example.  The electrostatic force between two protons is 36 orders of magnitude greater than the gravitational force (given by Newton's equation).  It's not that Newton's Law is wrong.  It is just that in deep space it is totally overpowered by the Maxwell-Lorentz forces of electromagnetic dynamics.

Notice, in the equation in the previous paragraph, that the change in a charged particle's momentum (left hand side of the equation) is directly proportional to the strength of the magnetic field, B, the particle is moving through.  The strength of the magnetic field produced by an electric current (e.g., a cosmic sized Birkeland current) falls off inversely as the first power of the distance from the current.  Both electrostatic and gravitational forces fall off inversely as the square of the distance.  This inherent difference in the spatial distribution of electromagnetic forces as compared to gravitational forces may indeed be the root cause of the inexplicable velocity profiles exhibited by galaxies.

So outlaw, are you purposing that there is some sort of plasma used in a Stan Meyer device?

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Re: The Electric Sky By Donald E Scott..
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2010, 04:01:12 am »
im not sure how u would say it? cold plasma?.. while i know stan uses dark current mode.. them quotes that you posted are the ones that sparked my mind in the book.. thanks for taking the time to clairify for all the others..