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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2008, 05:47:51 am »
Ok guy's, this is one reason the circuit is a beta circuit,,, i can say to whoever is trying to replicate this i feel very bad for you as you must have whent or are going threw a bunch of crap with this circuit....

i have been working on trying to get the alternator up and going for the past 2 to 3 hours, i am flusterated sad and ill,,,, either there is a wrong component on the board somewhere or the timer is flawed, or the fets just is junk, this is one reason i have not made a final circuit, but i'm making one now and it may take a month? i have to wait on parts and stuff threw mail so thats what takes so long.

i think that all fets are junk, i have never had this many problems before, i did manage to get it to work but the fet got hot after that each time i hooked up a fet they all kept going bad just one right after the other, i think the fets are junk!

i will go over my board to make sure there is no flaws in it, i have checked the circuit with an oscilloscope and it seems to be working find, however the drain of ALL the fets do not show anything.

the FQ chip is like 8 to 9 dollors plus shipping, enough of these garbadge fets, im ording it if it cost 20 dollars, ITS WORTH IT not to have to deal with this!!!!!!!!

SO, who has successfully replicated this??? If you did, and you got harmonics, what FET did you use? i had no problems with the FQ fet till i bumped the wrong capacitor and smoked it, man i gotta have that fet back

as you can see this circuit is not easy, i have many many hours in on it, when i get the circuit together and confirm  its worthy of being released i will release it..
« Last Edit: February 20, 2008, 05:53:42 am by hydrocars »


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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2008, 06:41:20 am »
GOod lord, i cant find the fets,, i found a place but to ship its 25 bucks, man thats a rip off, i may not can afford this


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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2008, 17:52:10 pm »
i got it working with the fets that i had, the problem was you cant ground gate the fet, how odd, i also made new discovery's along the way. i would like to make a video for all of you, but im not going to make a crap video so it will just have to wait till everythings perfect, given the fact that all i have to work with right now is crap parts it may be a while, also the 6 tubes that i have added will call for a bigger drivermotor, the motor i have will probably hit harmonics pretty good, not %100 sure right now.

Each fet works differently, the circuit has to be designed around the fet, so when i make a public schematic it will contain a 3 way switch for selecting diff types of fets that operate on a min gate voltage of 5 volts 250 ua.

some fets dont like to be turned off, they turn there selfs off. some fets such as the FQA30N40 will not turn off, you have to litterly turn them off.  other fets that doesn't like to be turned off may require no resistor between the timer and gate. you gotta know your fets, i did not build my circuit around the fet, you should see it my circuit now, it looks like a troubleshooting board, many tracks was destroyed, its junk now.

im just glad all you guy's don't have to go threw what i'm going threw, one day soon i will lay a working circuit on the table that will work for everyone. 

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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2008, 19:11:58 pm »

glaid you found the bug,made.
Yesterday i just blew another circuit to haven...
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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2008, 20:17:30 pm »
nice to hear you fixed the problem hydro. I hate faultfinding :'(


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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2008, 12:41:08 pm »
just to make sure no one has a misunderstanding, heres what i meant.

The alternator can self ignite itself at high rpm's. The cell also holds a charge, this charge is greater than what 2 AA batterys in series can offer a coil.

so if you pulse a coil with 2 AA batteries you dont hardly get much, if you do it with a cell, there is something in the cell that opens a can of worms on any coil, try it.

Before the alternator can self ignite, it has to be spinning. during freespin nothing connected, the stator outputs a very small voltage, im not sure it will even show up on the voltage meter.

now you take the rotor leads, you connect both of them to the stator and you hold them, nothing will happen. you keep holding them. the stator will appear to start resonating with the rotor. there will come a point to where you will have to start regulating, if you fail to regulate you will blow your diodes. The stator only works connected to the rotor in one direction.

now that you got that out of the way, you hook the cell to the stator, remember the cell holds a charge, so you connect it to the stator with the same polarity, this also helps the alternator to self ignite faster.

when you get the alternator self ignited, the power comming from the stator going into the rotor has to be regulated, if not you will be going at full blast and this will blow your diodes, not to mention your driver motor couldn't handle the torq.

to regulate you put a fet between the rotor and stator, you regulate voltage and amperage coming from the stator going into the rotor. The way the regulation works is the fet becomes a resistor that pulses. fets dont like to be a resistor, the want to be all the way on, or all the way off. when you run them inbetween they get hot and smoke.

the FQA30N40 is a good fet to be used as a pulsing resistor, if it did not resist current you could not regulate.

the problems i had with the new fets in the above post is they did not resist properly, they would not self ignite the alternator properly, when these fets reached a point to where it would self ignite the alternator, they self ignited it at full blast now allowing you to regulate down. when you tried to regulate down it would cut off.

to solve this problem with those types of resistors that has funny resistance when in use, i had to add resistance to them, i did this by placing a coil between the fet and rotor, this gave it more resistance, i could then regulate smoothly, by this time i had already ruined all my fets for past trouble shooting.

also the pulsing fet, known to me as a pulsing resistor causes a sort of harmonics to the fuel cell. the reason for the fet is you have to vary the amplitude of the voltages going into the cell, this amplitude is related to the rpm's at which the alternator is spinning at. when you regulate this way you get harmonics.

other problems i came across is much like the dave lawton circuit. you have a 220 ohm resistor comming from the gate of the timer going to the gate of the fet, and you have a 820 ohm resistor comming from ground going to the gate of the fet. the 820 ohm resistor shuts the fet off. however the fets i had refused to work with the 820 ohm resistor in place. the other fet refused to work with any resistor in place.

in most fets datasheets it will tell you that the fet gate should be around 5 volts 250ua, the timer is plenty good enough for the fet without having to use external drivers to gate the fet.

you dont want the fet to be all the way off, the fet is not just there to allow pulses to go threw, the fets job and main function is to become a pulsing resistor. the FQA30N40 used both resistors.

so it is problematic for me to bring you guy's a schematic because the schematic has to be build around the fet you're using. however i did get the new fet to work, it still got hot, its a very poor fet to use.

maybe stevie will post the fet he is using, im not sure how his fet holds up under attack. But atleast you see what you need, the fet does not send pulses to the alternator, it gets voltages from the alternator, and it lets it LOOP around acting as a switching and pulsing resistor. i will throw together a very simple circuit soon
« Last Edit: February 25, 2008, 12:51:56 pm by hydrocars »


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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2008, 06:36:05 am »
fets are in, test is done,,, the FQ's kick ass, just a few touch ups,, a couple of days and the schematic will be good for release...


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Re: Ionizationx Alternator Schematic
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2008, 03:45:35 am »
well, i hit harmonics with my 6 cells, my current driver motor is to small to hit harmonics, so i have to get a bigger one.

no i havent got production numbers yet. stevie may have??

when i get this cell going i will compare the production against normal electrolysis and post the results.

i can leave by saying with a battery it may take me 5 mins to gain 5 psi, and with the alternator it takes just over a min, and that is monkeying around, also thats with 12 volts to the sell as well. so that should give you some sorta ideal for now.

also, i have been reading alot on stanleys work, and i can see that what i'm using is very similar to what stanley was using. there is more to come! alot more. i look forward to posting this circuit!
« Last Edit: June 03, 2008, 01:14:22 am by hydrocars »