i understand that steve.. so lets say we have distilled water in a fuel cell... the two holes are filled correct since we do have water and not gas.. this means atomicaly the only way for electrons to get through the water is how?
these words in quote are stans words from his own mouth on one of his videos
"waters has 8 electrons in oxygens L orbit when it is water.. L orbit has a capacity of 8 electrons.. it dont want anymore electron nor does it want to exchange electrons.. which means it opposes the movement of electrons 78.54 greater then air"
when stan says "movement of electron" what does he mean? does he mean the force of moving an electron out of orbit L?...
"nor does it want to exchange" is another key term defining the resistance hes tuning to..
The holes you are referring to are the ions present in the water in the form of salts and such. The ions accept the electron from the cathode making the ion net negative and will also have an attraction the the positive plate. When the ion touches the positive plate it gives up the charge(electron) it took from the cathode.
Remember, dielectric values are based on pure substance which water almost never is even close to pure. Also, a dielectric value is based upon a medium with little or no ionic content. Since ions are natural charge carriers, the presence of them in water make the conductivity overcome any dielectric resistance. So using the basis of 78.XX ohms as an arbitrary point of measurement is mute, that number will not calculate with your real results.
Electrolysis is by far the opposite of ionization. What I see many do is try to put them in the same comparative group. What should be realized is the current in electrolysis is to be the process we do not want to happen. We want liquid to gas ionization with normal tap water or any available water. But all available water has a good amount of ionic content forcing us to find a solution allowing us to attain high voltages without letting the ions take electrons from the cathode. Hence the need for chokes or a capacitive/resistive ground. Think of it this way... The ground is a vast sea of free electrons. If we charge a plate positively, the electrons from the ground will be attracted to it, depending upon the voltage level and the space between the positive plate and the ground. What we are trying to achieve is keeping the free electrons from leaving ground by means of resistance and magnetism or any method that works. That allows us to raise the positive voltage to a higher potential without drawing current from ground and yet bring the positive plate as close to the ground as possible. I like to call it a "capacitive resistive ground". Now, being able to have this high differential between the plates, the medium in that space, whether it be air or water, will be polarized and or ionized from the conditions set forth. It is easily proven with an "air ionizer" experiment to demonstrate one possible method, although air has very little ionic content where as, water has quite a bit, making circuit design less of a challenge.
How much energy does it take to strip one electron from hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen? What is the most efficient means of ionizing a medium to force it to eject electrons from their orbits?
