hey webmug, right on, this is where stans famous statement, restrict the amps and allow voltage to take over, comes into play, with amps flowing through the water the voltage can not grab onto the water and oscillate it, first amps must be completely cut off, then, and only then, with even 7 volts or around there, really low, as he mentioned in the 661 patent, the water can be set to oscillate between the plates, and be broken apart. Higher voltage just means the "amplitude" of the oscialltions is increased, more force.