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Re: Circuit Simulator
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2010, 00:44:10 am »
Two resonant charging chokes...

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Re: Circuit Simulator
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 05:12:37 am »
I was playing around with an idea for the electron extraction circuit.

Obviously you can't replicate this in the circuit simulator because the capacitor wont give you electrons ;)

Basically, as you already know, the EEC pulses opposite to the VIC, so that when the VIC is off, the positive plate can be used to extract electrons when a positive potential is applied across the resistive load.

In this situation the water, being the source of the electrons, acts as the 'ground' or negative connection to the circuit.

The idea.

Step 1: Put the resistive load... light bulb... in between the top choke and the positive plate.
Step 2: Separate the VIC in between the secondary and bottom choke, so that each has it's own individual ground.
Step 3: Pulse the VIC continuously.
Step 4: Gate the ground on and off for the bottom choke, while the secondary is always grounded.

This results in the positive half of the VIC always being pulsed, and the negative half of the VIC being gated on and off. This means when the negative is gated off, the EEC comes into effect automatically, and starts pulling them through the light bulb.

Of course you have to have a working VIC, and voltage level high enough to be ionizing the water.

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Re: Circuit Simulator
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 18:32:26 pm »
Hi Donald,

A wfc in my opinion is not an ordinary capacitor nor is it acting as one.  Besides your experiment, Tim Walker described an interesting experiment too on another forum.  Take a tube or pipe and take it to your kitchen stainless steel or copper or even aluminum, connect positive lead of a voltmeter to the pipe and ground lead to for example a stainless steel sink or other earth ground.  Run water thru the pipe from the faucet and see if a voltage is measured.  What is the significance of that?

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Re: Circuit Simulator
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 18:56:32 pm »
Its not a capacitor , its a resonant cavity .

Its not just some tube and some pulsing .

Notice the perpendicular tubes in the Stephen meyers patent , the same phase goes to 2 different tubes , wich are totally opposite from eachother in a 3 phase manner , they are always facing their twin brother .

 Now why not just go 3 tubes , why the 2nd generator ?

Looking at the tesla antenna system once more I wonder ... From the lattice etc ...

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Re: Circuit Simulator
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2010, 19:10:32 pm »
Hi Dankie,

It's a capacitor, it's a resonant cavity, it's whatever the application calls for.  No argument from me.

Not sure what you mean by perpendicular.  I see 3 tubes one inside the other.  The inner tube and outer tube oscillate and the middle tube is the ground.  Two generators doubles the output.  I was at my cousin's house the other day and her husband was showing me his workshop.  His grinder is an electric motor with a center shaft and 2 grinding wheels attached.  Exchange the grinding wheels with generators or alternators simple.  So why not 2 generators?  Get 2 for the price of one...

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Re: Circuit Simulator
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2010, 19:47:22 pm »
to have the  2 alternators connected to a solid rod that is generating both alternators you would think there would be some type of   phase alignment done in the mechanincal perspective of things... we know a 3 phase is showing .33 of each phases peak wave right?  would you want to match the peaks or off set them?  to off set will double the frequency  while i think matching them will double your amplitude of the single alternator freq. for them to be belt driven would not allow any phase matching between two alternator due to belts slip

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Re: Circuit Simulator
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2010, 20:07:06 pm »
Hi Outlawstc,

Why?  I'm referring to Stephen Meyer's patent application and his modification of his brother's method.  Each phase is connected to a separate set of 3 tubes so minimally it can handle 6 sets of 3 tubes each as described in the patent application with 2 generators.  Yes, there would be a 1/3 or 33.333...% pulse width so we agree on that.  KISS is best.

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Re: Circuit Simulator
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2010, 14:14:01 pm »
to have the  2 alternators connected to a solid rod that is generating both alternators you would think there would be some type of   phase alignment done in the mechanincal perspective of things... we know a 3 phase is showing .33 of each phases peak wave right?  would you want to match the peaks or off set them?  to off set will double the frequency  while i think matching them will double your amplitude of the single alternator freq. for them to be belt driven would not allow any phase matching between two alternator due to belts slip

Yeah ur right , it all seems very troublesome , Thats why Im gonna do this solid state .  400 times the frequeny range and 10 times less electrical power needed for exciting that cell anyways .

Problem with that is you need transformers to isolate the impedance , a push pull amp wont like to drive the wfc straight up . I sure will try tho , it depends on the phase angle at the source , normally this is meant for speaker coil or transformer , an inductive and resistive load  . Try running  a pure capacitor tho and you will run into trouble .

Still trying to locate a high frequency 3 phase transformer , wish me luck lol .

I have located a bunch of audio trans ranging from 25 to 75 euros each . Rather annoying but the range is needed here , 200 hz to 30000z is all we need . Theres a 6 amp fuse there on the patent so im aiming at least for 5 , that means those tiny trans are no good , those are really common and cheap .
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