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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2009, 18:35:10 pm »
Yea exactly, it would be good to build this, then modify your chokes to match your cell, and keep trying to improve the efficiency based on your results, you could add in a step up transformer to take that 4 amps and drop it down to 1/2 amp and then use your chokes to restrict that... even higher voltage... lots you could play with once you get the basic system going

and the variable plate gives you variable capacitance so if your tube cell capacitance is within the range of the plate cell capacitance then you could design chokes to match that particular gap, or any other you are thinking about trying.


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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2009, 19:38:29 pm »
If you restrict to 1.36 amps and 3.7 amps are wasted as heat,
i dont know the circuit he used, but in a meyers type (series resonant) circuit there cannot be any amp losses.

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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2009, 01:31:32 am »
I'm so not concerned with circuit resonance as much as I am looking for the "Resonant Action" that happens between the plates. That's where the magic is. If it can be done with this demo cell, I would like to see it. Is it confirmed he could convert 5 gallons a minute with a 3 inch cell? I would pay money to see that!

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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2009, 03:20:06 am »
*5 gallons per hour

the plate cell won't do that much!

that cell is a phase lock loop resonant cell, with a pump pushing water through, probably pretty high voltages too

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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2009, 16:41:46 pm »
Dudley , I would like to know how you are sure this is 'special electrolysis' and if ribbons did form with a closed tube set .

How can you be sure they were ribbons between tubes and was there electron phasing vs voltage across the tubes  ?

I would  like absolute confirmation that this was indeed different than regular electrolysis .

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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2009, 17:29:38 pm »
well at one point i did use a 2 plate cell i have alot of cells that range from a 1 tube to 101 plate and you can see bubbles dont form on the electrodes  you could also see bubbles forming above the gap  lastly you can see  little mist shooting out off the water

when i used a meyers circuit i couldnt see anything because the circuit shown above dosent work as stated  their are components missing from the diagram




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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2009, 17:39:13 pm »
well at one point i did use a 2 plate cell i have alot of cells that range from a 1 tube to 101 plate and you can see bubbles dont form on the electrodes  you could also see bubbles forming above the gap  lastly you can see  little mist shooting out off the water

when i used a meyers circuit i couldnt see anything because the circuit shown above dosent work as stated  their are components missing from the diagram

May I ask what were those components lol?

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Re: Demonstration Cell - Variable Spacing Plate Cell
« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2009, 19:01:37 pm »
well at one point i did use a 2 plate cell i have alot of cells that range from a 1 tube to 101 plate and you can see bubbles dont form on the electrodes  you could also see bubbles forming above the gap  lastly you can see  little mist shooting out off the water

when i used a meyers circuit i couldnt see anything because the circuit shown above dosent work as stated  their are components missing from the diagram

Can you be more precise what is missing from the diagram? And what doesn't work? What can we do about it to make it work?

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