My thoughts on the Meyers effect

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In this post I will go into what I believe Stan was doing.These ideas are mine based on what I've read in Stans Tech Briefs and Patents.I will post sections of his papers and break them down line by line and explain them so all will understand.

These post I make will be edited heavily,so please don't post anything that takes my work off topic.I won't let any bickering go on,or any conversations between anyone else here.All questions or replies must be to my post only.All others will be deleated.This section will be for my thoughts and work only.Please use your own section for your own ideas.

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I will start by explaining how Stan was using voltage over current to PULL apart the water molecule.

Once you see how he was doing it,then you are on your way to making it happen.

I will start posting my thoughts as soon as I get my files in order.I had a hard drive failure,and I am getting all my files reloaded.
So stay tuned.

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In this post the information I provide is for the resonant cavity cell.This information doesn't apply to the demo cells.Those types of cells didn't work in resonance.So keep that in mind when reading this info.

Now most of you that read this post should already know that Stan was using voltage potential to seperate the water molecule.He was using electrical attraction/repelling forces.
At the end of this post there will be a pdf file with the sentence underline to refer to for this post.

The most important sentence on that whole page sums up what Stan was doing.He states that "Applied electrical attraction force(TT) and (UU) always being of equal voltage intensity but opposite in electrical polarity as voltage amplitude(65) is attenuated.

Lets break that down a little.First he states that the applied electrical force needs to be of equal voltage intensity.What does that mean?He means that you will need the same voltage on both plates at the same time. ie: 1000 volts on the positive and the negative at the same time.BUT it needs to be of Opposite Polarity!That means you need +1000 volts on the positive plate and -1000 volts on the negitive plate.

Now why does it need to be that way?Think about it.If you are to pull the water molecule apart,you need to apply the pulling force to both sides of the molecule at the same time and of the same force.If you have a voltage differential of 1000 volts,where as you would read with a volt meter,you have a +1000 volts on the positive plate and 0 volts on the ground.Now what's going to happen? You'll just pull the molecule toward the positive plate.Because you don't have an opposite force pulling back toward the negitve plate.The pulling force need to work from both sides at the same time of the same force.

So what is the voltage across the water? If we have a +1000 volts and a -1000 volts on the voltage zones, we will have 0 volts,because they balance each other out.The voltage isn't being used on the water,it's being used on the plates to create the electrical fields to pull on the positve and negitve polarities of the water molecule.The more voltage there is,the greater the Attraction/Repelling forces become.So all were doing is pulling on the water molecule with voltage,not appling it to the water.

So how do we read the voltage at the cell?If we can't read it across the cell, then how?
You read it just like all of Stans drawing show.On one side of the cell.All his drawings show the unipolar pulses with the step charging between the cell and the top choke.You will need a ocilliscope to see this voltage.A volt meter won't read this voltage because there isn't any current there to make the meter work properly.I believe Warp pointed that out.And I have seen this first hand.The scope lead ground clip needs to be attached to your power supply ground.Then you will see the voltage.

Do you now see what it is Stan says he was doing? It took me a long time to grasp what he had put in our face the whole time.I must have read his papers a dozen times or more,and I never put it all together,until about a month ago.

Thats it for this post.I will put more in later.
Don

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My last post was only meant to give everyone the basic concept of how Stan was using voltage potential to PULL the water molecule apart.Most people don't fully understand what it was he was doing.Basic attraction/repelling forces of voltage.

I will delete previous post that I feel don't follow my path of documenting my thoughts and work.So don't be affended when your post are removed.I will leave them for a while before deleting them.

Now I will go into the basic resonance cell design needed that Stan used.
This type of cell I did get to see.The file at the end of this post shows where Stan states all of this.

The resonance cell is only one set of tubes.3/4 inch ouside with a 1/2 inch inside tube, 3 inches long.Spacing was .090 inches.Stainless of course.

Now for the big surprise. The  tube set must be encased in delrin. Just the outside tube is covered. But the inside tube will be also isolated from the water bath because the whole set will be in a base that holds both tubes.I will attach a photo also to this post of my tube set,so you will get the idea.

This is in Stans tech brief that is at the bottom of this post.I have not seen anyone do this to their cell.

Now the cell I seen of Stans had 11 tube sets in it.They were all controlled be seperate VIC circuits.Each one was independent of the others.That is whats inside the white cell pictured at the beginning of the gas injector brief.

Again,this is only a disciption,and not meant to go into details of how it works.Those thoughts will follow in other post.

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My cell is pretty basic.All I did was drill three counter sunk holes down into the base material.The center hole is 1/2 in dia. and is drilled the deepest.Then the 3/4 inch hole is next,but it's not as deep as the 1/2 inch.Then the last whole is an inch just deep enough to hold the outer tube case that you see.Then I drilled a hole from the outside so it will cut into the base where the 3/4 inch tube ends.That's the pipe plug you see in the picture.If you open the picture file,you'll be able to see the whole that is drilled down through the top beside the tube case,this cuts into the hole that was drilled through to the tube set.That is how the water gets into the tubes from the bottom.If you hook this cell up to straight DC power,you can see the water circulating.
Don

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I just wanted to point this out to show people clearly what you are trying to explain to them:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/ActualVoltageWaveform.png)

The bottom choke provides a mirror image of the voltage waveform of the top choke, and applies the equal and opposite voltage to the plates at the same time.

Or even better yet, look at this

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/Picture3-3.png)

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Don,

As far as i know my electronics, is this setup still a basic potential difference as all other setups. If you have 1000V positive and 1000 volt negative, you will read 2Kv.
Correct me if i am wrong here..

Just like a LM7812 and a LM 7912 hooked up to one transformer, which give you a positive and a negative 12V output. Measure across it and you see 24V.

Steve

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Steve,yes you would have a total differance of 2000 volts,but if you were to try and read it with a multi meter,you would see zero.They would cancel each other out.as far as the meter is concerned.

Also,thanks Donaldwfc for the drawings,that should help out alot for others who don't quite get the basic idea on how it all works.

Don

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Imagine this guys, instead of +1000 volts and -1000 volts, say you have +996 volts, and -992 volts

This is how you can read it:

1. Ground to Positive Plate = +996 volts
2. Ground to Negative Plate = -992 volts
3. Positive Plate to Negative Plate = +4 volts
4. Absolute Voltage (I believe this is un-measurable by any direct connection method, i may be wrong) = 996 + 992 = 1988 volts

Now because we have 4 volts when we measure the 3rd way, this is where we use the tunable bottom choke, to tune the voltage exactly equal and opposite