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AC electrolysis
Dankie:
Well in the patent app if those values shown are truthful , Stephen was using 600 hz main freq , but his cell ringing inductive kicks looked like 20 times that or more . It looks a bit like what stevie was having with his chips and what I see with a 555 with an inductive probe .
He uses 3 tubes ,remember , he also mentions something about "crossing the barrier" , he mentionned that in the interview and in the petent , he said what Stan did was figure out "a" way for the electrons to cross the barrier ??? ... I still am studying all his words to the letter .
Something about matching the electrical wavelenght of the electrodes , impedance matching of the water bath ( adaptive rf impedance matching ??) , and ringing effect ... All pretty straightforward from the looks of it lol ... At leats I know what I am hunting
Very touchy and complex eletrical and physical phenomenon but I am up for it , I think I can handle this eletrical stuff .
Steve:
Logic,
How high do you wanna go in frequency?
I think it can go up in ghz if you want to.
Steve
Newguy:
--- Quote from: Logic on September 07, 2009, 13:28:21 pm ---I have tried to visualise what happens at the interface between the electrodes and water:
For a negative DC electrode:
A water molecule gains an electon from the electrode.
The enables 1 H atom to overcome the electronegativity of the water molicule and split off.
This leaves a neg. OH- ion in contact with the negativly charged plate.
As both are negative the OH- ion is repelled away from the electrode at extremely high speed.
Now there are billions of water molicules in the way, which the ion bumps into.
This causes the the kenetic energy of the ion to be changed into heat in the electrolyte.
Now picture what would happen If the electrode could be changed to positive extremly fast, before the negative ion leaves, or moves too far away:
The negative charge would be stripped off, adding power to the setup.
An extra electron would also be taken away; making a OH+ ion and perhaps splitting it into O and H?
So the question becomes:
How fast does the OH- ion move away from / break contact with, the negative electrode and thus how high does the AC frequency have to be to present a positve surface to said negative ion before this happens?
From the link above it would seem that the ion moves away at an initial speed of around 2 million miles
in a minute!?
From this one can deduce that your AC frequency has to be insanely high for you to see any advantages to using AC.
Or perhaps the OH- ion bounces off the closest water molicule at a certain frequency and would then hit the electrode again if it were + at the right time?
???
So; whats the highest frequency AC one can produce?
:)
--- End quote ---
Stan Meyer referanced a decent patent ... lemme find that and see if it helps brb
Newguy:
well it was Prestridge I was thinking about... I'd say yall done read that anyway being Stan referanced to it, not really to do with ac electrolysis.Horace Heffner done some expieriments with AC electrolysis.Prestidge seemed to play on the works of Cotrell... maybe worth reading his work ??
Dankie:
Newguy ,
Around here if you wanna pass on information about a document , you link the document . Better yet , you read the document and take pics of he important quotes you think are relevant and helpful for our research .
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