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« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2010, 01:32:03 am »
here's a simulation of the circuits I made to replicate these waveforms  http://www.globalkast.com/docs/TonyWoodside%27s_Xogen,Meyer,PuharichWaveform.pdf

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« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2010, 04:02:36 am »
Well I am a bit dissapointed , I tought you were farther off than simming .

How are you so sure those waveforms result in the efficient fracturing of water ? We have learned with Stan that this wasnt the case time and again .

If this is supposed to be a radiating antenna as Stephen says then there is something we dont understand yet , how to make very high frequencies with low frequencies . And how can we trust the words of Stephen if the patent seems to have been rejected , I do not have an access code to see whats really goin on with that application .

I rest my case

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« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2010, 04:32:38 am »
its not hard to get higher frequencies by using lower frequencies. If you know anything about digital electronics you know what I'm talking about here. Just take two frequency generators and use logical IC's. Like for instance take one frequency of 620Hz and OR it with a 630Hz frequency  and you can get frequencies up into the kilohertz range...vary simple. The reason for this is because the two frequencies will overlap at some point and the OR gates output will contain higher frequencies than what is being applied. Just look at the Truth Table for the OR gate.
ex.
A + B = X
0    0    0
0    1    1
1    0    1
1    1    1

That's what the OR gates Truth Table looks like, 0 = low and 1 = high
Also the chokes will act as frequency multipliers depending on the value of the inductor, I've tested this for myself and by applying low frequencies across 10mH inductors I've got frequencies over 100kHz.

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« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2010, 06:46:21 am »
your basing your assumption on an OR gate to "layer"/"combine" 2 frequencies??? an OR gate turns 2 signals into 1 signal by pre determined association. it select 1 OR the other...

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/boolean1.htm

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"The next gate is an OR gate. Its basic idea is, "If A is 1 OR B is 1 (or both are 1), then Q is 1."

OR Gate
A  B  Q
0  0  0
0  1  1
1  0  1
1  1  1  "

nice try though... you want to generate 2 freq. with AC your best bet is the 2x alternator method... Set one freq. with one alternator then your second with the second alternator. Feed the out put of No.1 into Number 2... your output from number 2 is the frequency of number one over the top of number 2...

maybe OR gate to pulse DC voltage but those gates are not very robust compared to relays and MOSFETS...

Not to stamp on your electronic engineering degree...

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« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2010, 07:50:06 am »
yea I'm talking about pulsed DC here...I figured you would know that by me say "Digital" circuit. AC is analog and digital is discrete or ON and OFF such as pulses.

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« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2010, 13:18:52 pm »
your basing your assumption on an OR gate to "layer"/"combine" 2 frequencies??? an OR gate turns 2 signals into 1 signal by pre determined association. it select 1 OR the other...
Well it's doing what he said, but if you feed a 620Hz and a 630Hz wave into an OR-gate the duty cycles wouldn't be stable and change over time. But why discuss how to generate HF impulses? There's plenty of possibilities.
The thing is, that Meyer's method is nothing else than electrolysis by current.

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« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2010, 16:34:27 pm »
Tell me something I dont already know .

I tracked down Stephen Meyers's adress if anybody wanna call him and him about his patent , if he got it or not . Somebody call this guy up .

I have given up Hydrogen untill I have proof that his method works , I am trying a new invention . a RIFE device / laser hydrogen splitter . Maybe I'll investigate the SEC instead or the horvath device at least we got this working .

A 50 khz sinusoidal  3 channel with autolocked  even harmonics that can be phased ( randomly ) and can be frequency keyed (randomly) .

My goal is to simply hit a harmonics of every frequency God has ever made .

Its nasty what I can do now .

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« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2010, 08:18:59 am »
Tony Woodside , What circuit sim is that , I am at a loss with multisim , whenever I wish to simulate the VIC circuit on multisim it gives me timesteeoerror , I put my timestep real low and I still get the same error .

Itried to sim a single leg of that Stephen Meyers circuit , same error .

Tony why dont you sim that instead and come back here , you seem to be comfortable with your sim , would be a new thing , that single diode with 2 chokes has been tried out to the point that we can say it dont work .