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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2009, 10:54:03 am »
Can O3  be created by voltage without arc over and without UV rad.?

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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2009, 11:14:04 am »
Yes Alan
There is three ways to make ozone

1.Hot Ozone...where two HV areas are near and the arc creates O3
2.Ultra Violet bombardment (takes a long time)
3.Cold Plasma Ozone...where coronal discharge from two insulated electrodes creates ozone


My friend has an original cold plasma ozone generator....it is just a HV neon sign xformer connected to four  one terminal bulbs filled with gasses. Two bulbs on one lead...two on the other, they are spaced apart about 1/4"....there are little purple coronal arcs that appear between the bulbs. That is the most efficient HV O3 generator because there is no short.

I drew this for u
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/Jdub6d9/coldplasmaO3.jpg)

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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2009, 13:54:13 pm »
Thanks, this could be very possible.

h20power also mentioned corona discharge and why and the ionization energylevels of oxygen, somewhere in this topic:
http://energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_discharge
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2009, 14:41:44 pm »
i made a ozone gen out of a neon transformer like 1 year ago it worked good.. i dont know how good but you sure could smell the ozone in the air...  all i used to make it wat a 7000 volt neon, a glass jar, and some aluminum windo screen.. i took the screen and cut 2 separate pieces and shaped them into cylinders. one was on the jars inner wall while the other was on the outter wall.. the war insulated them from earth other, the i took 2 aligator clips and hooked then to the neons high voltage lines to i could clip them onto the screens.. when the lights were off you could see a blue glow.. the glass seemed to let some through the glass.. if i were to use it long periods i think the glass would need to be replaced..

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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2009, 17:20:48 pm »
Thanks, this could be very possible.

h20power also mentioned corona discharge and why and the ionization energylevels of oxygen, somewhere in this topic:
http://energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained.html


Hi Alan,

Just curious, have you seen anything, like a picture of video of H2Opower? He was a member here, but when i asked him to show some prove of his work, he never showed anything. I just want to say, becarefull believing people who do not show any prove, results, or such things.

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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2009, 21:15:35 pm »
Hey Steve, I dont think he has done anything yet - hes mainly theorizing, like many of us are doing. ;
(edit: I stand corrected: /www.energeticforum.com/54948-post441.html  )
His basic stance is correct: how did Stan manage to run his buggy with only 7 lpm? By "freely" + ionizing air so more energy is released when the mix is  ignited. 'Free' as in "particle generation as an energy generator".

a bit offtopic:
I find this techbrief quote affecting Stan's credibility:
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The Radiant-Intensity (Rei) of the-
coherent wave-energy (919) being  released from the quartz tube (918)  [?] is, further, enhanced when
emitted energy-wavelets (Ers) given off by the activated hydrogen atom are allowed to oscillates
(back and forth movement) at an ever increasing "difference of potential" between the end plates
(915/916).
lightwave energy amplified by oscillating it with electric fields?

Many didnt understand coil 10-4, I think I discovered that it is 6-1, but:
without primary;
6-1's secondary copper wraps on outer bobbin are now copper bifilar wraps, each wrap wound as 10-3B;
the last wrap at the end is connected to the first SS bifilar wrap, parallel to first copper wrap, SS also wrapped as 10-3B.

I think 10-3b is correct and does indeed create [non oscillating?] opposite spikes on the rising and falling edge of the pulsetrain.
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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2009, 00:43:00 am »
Please see "Stanley Meyer Explained" thead at www.energeticforum.com for an example of H2OPower's application of theory to practice.  He has photos posted of his hydrogen gas gun.  Very impressive to me.  I hope it works.

I was at the alternative energy expo 2009 in Waldorf MD this weekend.  The most impressive demonstration to me of all was the Tesla Hairpin Circuit.  Karl was very helpful in explaining what was going on.  There are videos of his on youtube (search tesla hairpin circuit) and a thread on energeticforum.com.  The sparks were amazing and thought provoking.  There were other demonstrations and presentations as well covering everything from solar and wind power to zpe.  Keep an eye out for videos of the event.  It was all recorded.

Regards,
Andy

Btw this is an interesting topic.  It's interesting that the atomic hydrogen behaves similarly to hho with regards to melting temperature of the metal to which the flame is applied.

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Re: Atomic Hydrogen
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2009, 11:00:20 am »
@Alan
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lightwave energy amplified by oscillating it with electric fields?
I think first you need to familiarize yourself with analog gaseous lasers....Then I think you should read it again very carefully! And remember that "coherent wave energy" could be any spectrum. And, if you read the Blacklight Power patent I have attached to this response...you will see that they have fully defined it and now use a "Novel Atomic Model" to explain it and the anomalous emissions of "soft x-rays" from deep space (not empty...instead filled with hydrogen) as well as the sun (composed of hydrogen)...
Also when you "carefully read it" you will notice Stanley says
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given off by the activated hydrogen atom
...aka "Atomic Hydrogen"...aka ionized single atoms of Hydrogen
I suspect the "waveguide" is calibrated to the wavelength of the hydrogen creating a resonant oscillation between the electrodes....because the atoms will gain charge, travel across, release charge,  and, gain the opposite charge. Happens over and over, the atoms traverse back and forth between electrodes...and I suspect if you calibrate the distance to some harmonic of the frequency of the atoms oscillation you will get results that blow ur mind ;)