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Electrolysis => Fuel Cells => Tube Cells => Topic started by: Fiditti on July 17, 2008, 00:02:09 am

Title: WFC Results of Secret Experimenter
Post by: Hidden on July 17, 2008, 00:02:09 am
One of our members is getting some very satisfactory results with his Meyer's cell on three different test vehicles.

He's showing a 57% improvement on a semitruck;

A 210% increase in a 1.6 liter Toyota car which figures out to 110 mpg;

A 115% increase in a 3.8 liter Grand Am Pontiac car with the same sized cell used in the Toyota.

I don't have any real particulars on the cell other than the car cells were 8-tube setups 24" in length with no chokes being used.  Two 25 amp diodes were used but no chokes.  Also, a Lawton circuit was being used.  I have no information on the size of cell being used in the semi, but I imagine it is a much bigger cell.

He does say that the cell is easy to replicate and that any mechanical person should be able to do so.  I will post more intel as it becomes available.

The gap is 1.5 mm and each of the outer tubes is slotted/vented.
Title: Re: WFC Results of Secret Experimenter
Post by: Hidden on July 17, 2008, 16:49:41 pm
That's pretty impressive for a simple setup!

Can't wait to hear more.
Title: Re: WFC Results of Secret Experimenter
Post by: Hidden on July 28, 2008, 00:35:44 am
For whatever reason, it looks like the guy I was telling you about is gone.  He hasn't responded to my last five e-mails.  I hope he'll get back with me but at this point, I think he is gone for good. 
Title: Re: WFC Results of Secret Experimenter
Post by: Hidden on August 03, 2008, 04:51:38 am
I just heard back from the guy and he's still doing his tests.  He didn't share any updated material with me yet.  He still thinks he has something good.
Title: Re: WFC Results of Secret Experimenter
Post by: Hidden on August 03, 2008, 07:49:47 am
so how's this guy that you mention can we see his work on YouTube?
Title: Re: WFC Results of Secret Experimenter
Post by: Hidden on August 03, 2008, 13:28:35 pm
He's in the process of getting his product ready for market  so he's not advertising what he's doing on YouTube for obvious reasons.  He won't be selling his product through the regular high profile channels.  As I get information I'll share it. 

Title: Re: WFC Results of Secret Experimenter
Post by: Hidden on August 30, 2008, 05:09:20 am
He's made some changes to his tube cell.  He now uses a copper outer tube and a stainless inner tube with a resistor connected between the inner tube and the energy source.  He says the hydrogen output is much better.  I haven't tested this out yet.
Title: Re: WFC Results of Secret Experimenter
Post by: Hidden on August 30, 2008, 05:19:29 am
Ready for market. HA, that will never see the light of day....
Title: Re: WFC Results of Secret Experimenter
Post by: Hidden on August 30, 2008, 09:17:47 am
copper tubes end up going bad quite fast....there is avideo on youtube of a guy using a copper coil and it goes bad very quickly.....where the stainless remains fine.
Title: Re: WFC Results of Secret Experimenter
Post by: Hidden on August 30, 2008, 13:51:15 pm
He's put some sort of coating on the copper, which he says is preventing it from corroding.  His methods are a little different, and I just wanted to share them with you.  He says the output is very good indeed.  I'll add more when I learn it.
Title: Re: WFC Results of Secret Experimenter
Post by: Hidden on August 30, 2008, 17:19:14 pm
Alvas,

No, initially, he was experimenting with the cheap method, just varnish.

He said that his experiments helped him determine that the outer tube needed to be highly conductive, while the inner tube needed to be much less conductive.  He was wiring it the original Meyer's way, wih the outer positive and the inner negative.  When he added a resisor to each of the individual negative tubes, his gas production really increased.  He has also been experimenting with a non tube cell design, which he will not share with me.  He said it is neither tubes and/or plates but that it works better than anything he has ever tried.  If it's not a tube and it's not a plate, what can that be?  Anyway, maybe he will share it in time. 

Thanks for your interest.  I will continue to add to this thread as I get more information. 

Oh, he us using a choke setup he got from radio shack with the tubes too.  All he would tell me was that it was the choke that went with the tweaters.  He said it worked great.  He's using a Lawton circuit; 13 vdc from power supply; 2 diodes; & one choke.  That's all I know right now.
Title: Re: WFC Results of Secret Experimenter
Post by: Hidden on August 31, 2008, 10:46:35 am
Nice Fiditti!

Keep up the research and try to get the whole setup to that man!

br
Steve