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Re: Electric field do perform work Concept by sebosfato...
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2010, 01:14:50 am »
Yep, i think so, however i when i read it they were talking about virtual photons.. might be the same thing...


Is important to understand how electromagnetic fields propagates in vacuum, to understand how things go.


Did you got my email with the calculation steve?


I created a new thread dedicated to the air motor i saw in the ecological fair.


I believe is related to the thing meyer did with his car. He probably used the thermofusion principle to extract energy from the ambient. Somewhere i remember to read that his exhaust output were also very cold.


I believe meyer used water instead of only air, to be able to extract even more energy from the ambient. probably enough to keep the compressors working and so to fuel the car.


What i'm saying is that he certainly used the compression cycle to concentrate ambient thermal energy to be able to extract it in form of expansion of cold air with pre heated water injected.


He was so smart that he got the exhaust, cold and compressed it as a mean for getting more air compressed wasting less energy.


I just found another brazilian inventor witch had a 6 cylinder motor also running only on air and a bit of compressed air. This one said he used 2 of the cylinders as pumps to compress the air...   


The inventor witch holds the patent for the H2 generator i've being talking about here, told me that in the 60's he also did a bicycle witch run only on few compressed air... This is the man. Unfortunately  i'm not rich to finance every idea he have.


the thread is on energetic forum... I made a video of the engine running on the fair, very very cool.   http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6706-vortex-tube.html


I think we should create a thread here to discuss it. I really think that meyer used this principle. He showed the drawing of the vortex in the tech paper.


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Re: Electric field do perform work Concept by sebosfato...
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2010, 20:51:43 pm »
Well I guess will be very easy to modify an engine to run on water only.


We need a Bmw with common rail technology, than you need to take out the diesel pump...


Now you need a source of 220v 4 amps. Construct a cell having two plates witch withstand at least 300psig of pressure with a metal membrane to let the hydrogen to come out of it pure just the h2...


Than the h2 will get into the motor probably together with the air to be compressed, than at the max pressure point, water will be injected at the right temperature and pressure..  Than a mean of burning the h2 inside the engine can be found, a spark...


The cylinders and pistons should be made of copper content metal, to be able to absorb more energy from the ambient and to give more of this energy during the next cycles.


I think that the electricity needed to pressurize the water and keep it at the right temperature will not exceed 600w.


With 1200°c inside the engine the water will become vapor expanded. Thus will extract more energy from ambient in my opinion. You just need to make the droplets to become very small so they can redly absorb more energy while the temperature is still very high.




Probably the h2 is not even needed.


The procedure to make it run would be to heat the water and inject using initially a pump, when the right pressure and temperature is found we can design a cell witch will do it all in once.


As water can absorb a lot of energy and its expansion ratio is 1800, i think it can be easily made to self run. Witch is hard with only air.



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Re: Electric field do perform work Concept by sebosfato...
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2010, 04:45:29 am »
http://www.lightandmatter.com/html_books/4em/ch05/ch05.html


Good reading about electric field forces and water dipole torque,..