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General Discussion / Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........NPN and PNP
« Last post by Hidden on Today at 18:30:58 »
Hi folks,

Here another version of a schematic for this setup.
After a request, i made a schematic with an NPN and PNP switch. The coil could be the 8xa...

Sebosfato / Basic Request
« Last post by Hidden on Today at 13:16:48 »
basic components

1kw variac (i have a only a  500w one )

1kw stepdown transformer (i have a 800w one that i can use)

1200v 30amps transistor (need to buy costs a lot)

many Tvs of different voltages (have some , need more)

 50amp full wave bridge rectifier (have)

30 amp ultra fast diode  (need to buy)

pulse transformer 1:3 (need buy some wire)

primary 14Awg 100t

secondary 18 Awg 300t

charging choke 200turns 1 inch diameter 18awg with taps

isolated cell (already have)

high voltage isolation diode (have a couple )

water filter (missing pump)
I´m totally out of money so any help you could give me my friends would really help us completing this tests.. i will provide a paypal link here bellow for you can donate to help

i also accept  donation of components if you already have them and want to send it to me!

i believe that with maybe 500 dollars i could get most of this things i miss and make a lot of progress!

Remembering you that i already spend hundreds of thousands in my education, equipment,  and testing in the last 13 years!

Please Donate Here:

as a counterpart i can make some videos with the progress of the tests and explaining better what we are doing here..



Sebosfato / believe i´m on something
« Last post by Hidden on Today at 12:57:25 »
its related to the ionization and ability to generate ionized gas

i realized that there is two ways of getting high voltage one is to have a big transformation ratio the other is to have a collapsing field

i found also that we can connect the secondary in series with the primary in two ways when we are pulsing on and off the circuit / one on the dc side the other is the switch side... assuming only series adding connection is desired
one way will send a boost positive to the ckt during pulse on and the other will send a negative boost

also there is two way of pulsing it one is in this boost mode and the other is flyback mode..

i found that the vic is another transformer on its own and it can be a single coil too  split in two or 3 parts all in one direction only

I´m going to use at the end 4 transformers

T1 is the variac

T2 is a stepdown (high amps requirement)

T3 is the pulse transformer

T4 is the Charging choke transformer 

(vic is the combination of T3 and T4)

i explain you why

The way this system generate powerful pulses is to get the switch open interrupting the current at the coils this create a power compression or condense the power accumulated during pulse on to be discharged in a fraction of a pulse time

the total voltage achieved will be equal to:  the voltage input * collapse transformation factor * (transfomation factor + 1 because primary is in series) * transformation factor of the chokes transformer 

the collapse factor depends on the protection tvs used in parallel with the primary of the pulse transformer = (limit of the collapse / input voltage)

the chokes "primary" during collapse will have the same voltage as the pulse transformer primary collapse + secondary voltage collapse + TVS (in series ) DIODE voltage
the choke "secondary" will again increase this discharge voltage ...


if the boost negative mode is used on the pulse transformer what becomes clear is that during the collapse not only the chokes will discharge a high power amps into the cell but the voltages of the primary secondary and chokes secondary will be in series adding.. generating a very high voltage pulse at the same time where the chokes are giving a high voltage amp reverse spike pulse on it.. this hv positive will clearly take any of the free electrons out of the water leaving it positively charged..

using a isolated ground is possible to drive those electrons to a place where they will not be able to return using a simple diode with the anode connected to earth ground

my only fear is that the cell charge can force a high amps discharge on the transistor at next pulse on burning it...

the ratio of the choke primary to secondary relates to the water contaminant so it allow for balance for how much voltage goes to the water to polarize during pulse on and how much will be at the discharge...

i think stepup is for low contaminants as it will have very small current during pulse on

my best guess is that it will explode

Sebosfato / Crazy plan
« Last post by Hidden on Today at 09:12:53 »
i  have a crazy plan

i was thinking about how i´m going to play this game and i decided to go with all i can

to start with my power supply will be straight from the grid because i want some serious amps to drive the thing

my target is to get 500 watts nanopulses into one tube cell

for that my first plan  is to use a full wave bridge from a step down transformer for high current output i have here so i not run out of amps with a variac

i had it made for me few years ago its a 800W toroidal transformer with a multitap secondary being each of the taps with a thickness that support the maximum current for watts

for example if input is 240v the first tap is 24 v 35 amps and so on i´m not sure if it is 120 or 240 have to check it...

it is connected to a variac so i guess is 240v..

second my circuit protection will have protection for up to 1000volts given i´m using a 1200v transistor

this protection is based on the planned current so if i plan to have 20amps i must have maybe 10 tvs 1000v protection in parallel or more to handle such current

the primary will be in series with the secondary during the discharge to let the primary energy to be dissipated where its required however leaving the switch and tvs safe during well design operation

varistors are not good because they have a capacitance !

TVS have a Resistance like effect above its threshold voltage if it can hold from 1 amp to 5 amps to 400v range for example each diode..

this allow for a multiplication factor when the switch is open

thats what im interested collapsing the fields

the input circuit will be basically this the full wave bridge a fuse the protection and the transistor

the input coil is going to be a pulse transformer made with air core  1:3

the secondary will be connected in series with the primary and this mainly have two effects

the first effect is that the dc is switched thru it so a part of the amps are forced thru it during pulse on and this cancel part of the energy accumulated on it..

the second effect is that when the switch open the primary energy is dissipated on the load not on protection devices

in series with the secondary will be a diode and after it a coil made of 18awg 100 turns over a 1inch pvc tube with small spacers to reduce the capacitance (the spacers to be taken out after the coil is ready)

18awg is 1mm so the coil will have something like 20cm if the spacer is 1mm wide.. this will allow for connect at different points more easily on the coil without shorting ..

the amount of power that goes to the cell will depend on 3 factors mainly however the cell resistance is also a factor

input voltage  / control amps in for a given freq and choke

input frequency or repetition rate  / control amps in for a given volts and choke

charging choke size  / control amps in for a given freq and volt

cell (resistance if is low or capacitance depending on the resistance value) plus  choke value determine the discharge time

the lower the discharge time the greater is the peak power
General Discussion / Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Last post by Hidden on Today at 03:59:45 »
something just happen to occur to me

a  capacitor in series can be the same as an inductor in parallel !

both are high pass filters

both apply reverse voltage thru load on the discharge cycle..
J. Miller / Re: Stan Meyer Steam Resonator Circuit
« Last post by Hidden on Yesterday at 18:01:39 »
H bridge

Daniel Donatelli....?
J. Miller / Re: Stan Meyer Steam Resonator Circuit
« Last post by Hidden on Yesterday at 17:11:40 »
H bridge
General Discussion / Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Last post by Hidden on Yesterday at 15:43:28 »
i know what looks like but i dont really trusted the guy... he seems to know too much about everything so little hard to believe.. however is a good idea about the cathode insulation but it become a dbd could it be able to fracture the molecules? well the fracture cell says it can

what you think about this ?

12 years ago, he was a known figure in the OU world.
I just found it intresting that he also uses bemf pulses and eec circuit to create electricity.
The hho as a by product is a bonus.

To be honest, i dont care if he used an insulated kathode. If i am back home in 2 months, i will build two test cells which one has an insulated kathode and the othe one not.
Easy testing....
I want to see if i can get 100dc out at 1 amp....
That 100watts....
Even if it is pulsed.

I dont care too ! it appear to me that is only a matter of the capacitance you can get and voltage applied and frequency to get those amps and voltage at a load... it need to be 100Ohms

having the cathode insulated has two implications assuming he is talking about the negative electrode

the insulated part of the cell would get filled with positive charge water which remember me immediately the patent of meyer saying that  electrons will be ejected from the water bath.. basically as we charge the the delrin water will have positive from both sides

assuming that now we are talking about 20kv it will easily get lot of electrons out of water lets say we are forming H+ ions and charging the electrode with OH- ions

the limitation is only the capacitance

1 farad = 1 amp * 1 sec / 1 volt

meaning that if you apply 1 amps for one second it will increase the voltage by 1 or discharging 1 amp per second will decrease 1 volt of a 1 faraday capacitor

this mean that if you have a small cell you need a high frequency and voltage to get considerable amps ,, ok maybe is not what is needed,,

how ionizers work?

or how can we get away with the electrons? 

the only two ways i see is having one diode connecting the circuit to ground letting electrons go but not return

and  boiling of the electrons in a filament or negative high voltage needle (case of no ground) (the ions formed will however go to ground some time )

this will create an imbalance of charge since when we try to discharge the capacitor and coil back to the cell it wont have the electrons that cannot come back and the ions will necessarily react with water as they will be forced out of the electrode by the coils reversing voltage

on next cycle the opposite happen liberating electrons? this adsorb ions OH- maybe ionized by ejection and maybe with  strong enough pulse is possible to get it totally fractured 
General Discussion / Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Last post by Hidden on Yesterday at 15:07:47 »
that guy made just like meyer did ... he did lots of patents with somewhat related technology and gave parameters thru them for the realization of the principal that is the wormhole magnetic generator... in this patent he gave the 14 awg and 0.020 inch detail also that he tune to 60hz using external coil and capacitor but he uses a variable metal sheet capacitor

other parameters for this equipment are spread over the other patents

there is another patent of him that i didnt found that is the electric wormhole generator that he mentions in one of the patents but i could not find it ...
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