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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #128 on: February 26, 2009, 01:30:05 am »
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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #129 on: February 26, 2009, 04:52:02 am »
Z series = ( Xc - Xl ) 
Techbrief seems in error, or am I forgetting something?

yeah he later corrects himself in (eq 24) of Memo WFC 426

the Z impedance equation is always XL-XC never XC-XL......

Now as you were saying about figure 7-8.....the resonant charging effect is the entire inductor in series with resistor while having capacitance and resistance......FL1 and FL2 is the magnetic field that allows for the electron bounce phenomenon to occur.......this is the money shot.......understanding figure 7-5 and figure 7-8 will give us what we are looking for......i am getting all of my adpaters and cables in....so here it comes.....i will be able to find resonance finally by performing frequency sweeps then once i find the numbers i will do the math backwards to see what we were misunderstanding.....becuase from the math i do now at the frequencies i use....everything is perfect.......just not seeing amperage around .001 and voltage around 1kv.....i will do the math from the above photos i posted earlier.

TO OUTLAW:

i have no idea what is going on. BUT i always say that it should work EXACTLY AS THE PATENT LOOKS.....this method might work but i cannot tell from looking at it.....if naything i think that if it does work it is by far too complex and can be worked down into stans circuit......stan had it as simple as possible.......and that's what he used.....i am not sure about your alternative way (it may work) but once again i have no idea.....so to stay safe i just stick with what stan wrote......if anythign try out your circuit.....but it seems like alot of winding and no where in the papers does it say anything about 2 bifilar wound cores......it says L1 AND L2 ARE BIFILAR WOUND about an inductor core......L1 being only one coil.......L2 being another single coil........there are no hints to L1 AND L2 being each bifilar and each consisting of 2 coils........

BUT HEY THIS COULD WORK.....i just dont know how to tell.......it's complex to me.

but that is my response hopefully someone else can shed better light on it.

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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #130 on: February 26, 2009, 07:17:27 am »
alright so we know what the resonant equation is.....and we know how to find capcitance from specific dimensions.......well from this iamge alone we are given alot of information into stans setup.....
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/NUMBERS1.jpg)

so if we take those dimensions (also knowing that he has stated wall size of .0625 inches in many places) and apply them to our capcitance equation we get 94.583 pF....or 9.4583 e-11 farads.....we know that one of stans resonant frequencies used from teh above image was 5khz......or 5,000 Hz.....so let's reverse this in our resonanace equation......
(http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/12091.png)

we get approximately 10.7 HENRIES.......that is huge.....

and even further.....If you have the book THE ARRL HANDBOOK FOR RADIO AMATEURS then go to section 6 and look for the inductance capacitance table........when this capacitor and inductor resonate at 5khz our Z impedance will be over 100,000 Ohms.....

AND ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS CORRECT........this is startling.

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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #131 on: February 26, 2009, 07:26:45 am »
HERE IS THE TABLE FROM THE BOOK MENTIONED ABOVE.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/RESONANCE.jpg)

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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #132 on: February 26, 2009, 08:29:59 am »

"Opposite polarity Voltage Wave burst (1010) of Figure (10-5) as to Dynamic Voltage
Stimulation (770B) of Figure (8-1) is simply produced when Programmable Variable Pulse-Width
Pulse-Train Waveform (49a xxx 49n) is allowed to be electrically transmitted through and beyond
/ Resonant Charging Chokes Stages (56/62a xx 56/62n + SS56/62a xxx SS56/62n)"




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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #133 on: February 26, 2009, 08:42:20 am »
hi outlawstc
ok how good your imagination?

so lets say a alternator is running at 3000 rpm if this is correct 3000 X 6(hertz per rotation.). your output frequency will be18000 hertz   if hertz frequency variable is that simple would you nut ur pants?  .. 5500 rpm =33khz..

outlawstc

If  an a 6 pole alternator is running at 3000rpm
3000 revolutions in 1 minute
3000 x 6poles = 18000 sinewaves in 1 minute
18000 / 60       =  300 sinewaves in 1 second
therefore 300hz  ;)



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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #134 on: February 26, 2009, 08:45:02 am »
don't get confused now......remember the primary and secondary islation transformer is bifilar wound notice the dots on the isolated pulsing transformer that is made up of magnetic copper wire......
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/orientationofvic.jpg)

those dots signify bifilar winding.....this is done in order to get the exact waveform out as it is put in....meaning it is not reversed or polar opposite.....it can be stepped up but must be the identical pulse orientation figure (B).........

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/dotorientationtransformer.jpg)

so what you have highlighted simply states the VIC multi spool.....which is the copper magnetic wire primary and secondary bifilar wound on a bobbin spool.......and the ss wire inductor also bifilar wound.

EVERYTHING IS STILL CORRECT.

and figure (A) explains dankies mystery pulse.....over lay them and that is what you get.......

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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #135 on: February 26, 2009, 12:55:58 pm »
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Stan mentions insulation (Rs) only once in the techbrief:

"Capacitance Reactance is determined by the insulation resistance (Rs+ Re) and Inductance
(L1/L2) interacting together during D.C. Pulsing.  "

Naudin also failed to produce bubbles when using insulation.
Does this mean that the bubbles are formed by power (V * I ) due to current leakage after all?