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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #120 on: February 25, 2009, 16:48:16 pm »
ladys and gents,
have you ever had a teacher give you a quiz with like 30 multiple chioce questions..u  fill out all the questions to get to the last one that says now that you are done reading over this put your pencil down and wait for the teach.. the directions were to read over it first.. but instead were allways in a hurry and dont care to take the time to do so.. lol..
i think you will enjoy this post let me know what you think.

tab 39 under mode of operability last page of the water fuel tech.

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Yeah, no step-up transformer needed, only bifilars in cascade, dual layered with copper and s/s.
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1892-12-21.htm
"The effect of the increased impedance is strikingly illustrated in the two experiments of Prof. Bjerknes when copper is deposited upon an iron wire, and next iron upon a copper wire.  Considerable thickness of copper deposit was required in the former experiment, but very little thickness of iron in the latter, as should be expected."
I guess this quote applies to the illustration: copperwire deposit on the s/s wire to increase impedance.

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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #121 on: February 25, 2009, 17:10:09 pm »

The lecturer talks about resonance when I is max, and V is lowest, he also shows the resonance curve (@ 9:30 mins).
we are looking for the opposite, Vmax and Imin.


alan in order to get v max and I min it has to be parallel resonance........not series resonance.......series resonance will create high current......

so here is another thought....what if the bifilar chokes having (capacitance) forms a parallel LC circuit within the inductor itself.......so the inductor is creating low current and a high voltage output.......this is then in LC series with the water capacitor.....

Makes sense
Something like this?

(you also found it yourself i c )
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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #122 on: February 25, 2009, 17:52:46 pm »
so who wants to know the secret lol  i beleave i hold the answer to understanding rotary vic once and for all.  i will explain when i get off work tomorrow gotta get some sleep.  your really gonna like what i have to say because it fixes all problems of understanding.. at least i hope so lol.


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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #123 on: February 25, 2009, 20:32:22 pm »
so what kinda prize do i get?

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« Reply #124 on: February 25, 2009, 20:54:56 pm »
yeah alan since stanley meyers LC circuit or (resonant charging choke) is a LC SERIES SERIES SERIES circuit that means that at resonant frequency it will have high current........but i think that is the purpose in order to store energy in it's magnetic field.......

so although stanley talks about voltage going towards infinity and current diving towards zero that would have to be a parallel resonance......and stan's circuit is SERIES RESONANCE........i have ordered all my cables to connect everything......also i rewound my copper vic into sections.......it when from an inductance of 1.9mh to 2.9 mh just by wrapping it seperate sections......i also shorted it with around 3kv.........it shorted in multiple places at multiple times.......so just to let you know sections have nothing to do with preventing it from shorting out......because it did anyways.......the sections actually increase inductance.

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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #125 on: February 25, 2009, 21:21:45 pm »
ok ok ok .. i have finished my photo shop drwings.. ..  now you guys can see what stan was doing...   its genius. let me know what you think..   


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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #126 on: February 25, 2009, 21:50:04 pm »
yeah alan since stanley meyers LC circuit or (resonant charging choke) is a LC SERIES SERIES SERIES circuit that means that at resonant frequency it will have high current........but i think that is the purpose in order to store energy in it's magnetic field.......

I know now :) LC parallel stops all current @ resonant freq, also called a band stop filter, forgot it.
previous post of mine was a reaction to your suggestion of a parallel LC circuit inside the chokes, it looks like there is, look at fig 7-8.

Compare:
LC series: (http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/e/c/7ecc6732ce1672e15cb0c8967da0ae41.png)
to eq1 (2 and 3)
Z series = ( Xc - Xl ) 
Xc = 1/(2 pi f c )
Xl = 2 pi f L

(2 pi f = w)

Techbrief seems in error, or am I forgetting something?


kinesis, you are right about chokes behaving as parallel RLC circuits:

Inductance Reactance (Rs - Cd - FL) 
Inductance Reactance  (Resonance?) occurs when resistance (Rs), capacitance (Cd), and Inductance (FL)
interacts together during D.C. Pulsing.

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Re: New VIC pictures discussion!!!
« Reply #127 on: February 26, 2009, 01:00:04 am »
ok how good your imagination?

a alternator has 6 positve pole and 6 negative poles coupling each other.. from a side view of the rotor you can see the triangular poles resemble sine waves up and downs... so lets just say for one rotation it is capable of making 6 full 360 degree sine waves...  for it to make one rotation in exactly 1 second. will produce 6 hertz.. meaning 6 cycles.. one cycle is a 360 degree phase rotation.. you made 6 in one turn!!.. so now lets think about frequency and resonating ..   by acceleration rpm rises for crank and alterator.. speeding and slowing down   will change the frequency... so lets say a alternator is running at 3000 rpm if this is correct 3000 X 6(hertz per rotation.). your output frequency will be18000 hertz   if hertz frequency variable is that simple would you nut ur pants?  .. 5500 rpm =33khz.. ohh its gettin good lord lol. so im thinkin you only need to pulse primary with a gate and variable amplitude.... hmm interesting huh. those 2 variable should  allow proper adjustments for installation in multiple aplications.. like a 350 motor may get the same gate pulse as a constant, but voltage amplitude will change proprtional to acceleration by uppring freq in alternator .... so now lets say you want to put the same unit on a volks wagon.. due to lower fuel consumption the gate is what will change to acomidate needs... a alternator is harmonic because it puts of balanced potentials .. so i would say its a self resonant wave producer.. the vic sync pulse is like a hydralic pump.. electrons being the fluid.. the pump is constantly removing electrons from positive choke and putting them in the negative choke. while the stainless positive coil is giving its electrons to primary winding in exchange for holes aka positive charge.. those electrons are entering on positvie side of the coil so they got to make there way to the other side adding effeciancy to the positve pulse train 49a-49n




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