# Ionizationx: a clean environment is a human right!

## Stanley Meyer => Stanley Meyer => Stanley's Vic => Topic started by: kinesisfilms on October 23, 2008, 22:29:17 pm

Title: The overall specs
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 23, 2008, 22:29:17 pm
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Title: Re: The overall specs
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 23, 2008, 22:30:33 pm
our cells should be pulling around 3.3 amps! and we are looking to cut our amps down to .001 with the resistance amongst the vic circuit.....this seems MUCH easier to do with simple resistors and a few addition and subtraction.
Title: Re: The overall specs
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 23, 2008, 23:25:35 pm
alright so here is what i got for ya......i was looking through the tech brief to see what stan says about RS1 and RS2
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/resistiveresonance.jpg)

he says that the stainless steel wire used to construc them usually has a resistance of 11.6KQ...KQ being a common reference to Kohms.....
i plugged it into the equation 12volts/11.6kilohm=.001 amps or 1 milliamp or 1 ma.....exactly what we need to produce our high voltage field as stated in the sepcs above.
http://www.onlineconversion.com/ohms_law.htm (http://www.onlineconversion.com/ohms_law.htm)

now this is our ratio here......so let's say we have 40watts of power going in that 40 watts consisting of only .001 amps leaves us with 40,000volts as stated above.

11.6 Kilo ohms is our resistance......i have some 10Mohm microwave capacitors i would like to use the minute i get my pwm up and working again....the only thing though is they are rated for frequencies 50hz to 60hz...what would happen if i pulsed it with audio frequencies instead?...and with these 10Mohm resistors i would be looking at 40000000 volts or 40 Mvolts........once again a flyback transformer might be the simplest way to create your 30kv range they are teh stepup transformer, the blocking diode on teh positive and the resistance. you would just connect that to a bifilar coil and walla.
Title: Re: The overall specs
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 23, 2008, 23:56:03 pm
RESISTANCE IS THE KEY BABY......here are 2 consecutive important pages from the tech brief.....and remember bigger isn't better....bigger might lead to pre combustion.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/RESISTANCEPAGE1.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/RESISTANCEPAGE2.jpg)
Title: Re: The overall specs
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 24, 2008, 00:01:32 am
and since inductance has to be the same for both L1 and L2 i think this is why kevin west made his capacitor bank act as one resistance by making it series and paralleled at the same time....
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/WFFLRCcircuit.jpg)

i just feel that 10Mohm might be too much resistance if all we need is 11.6k ohm to create our .001 amp....can't we just use a few resistors to create this?
Title: Re: The overall specs
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 24, 2008, 00:03:08 am
Kenisis,

Did i ever mentioned that a car ignitioncoil has a resistance of about 11kohm?

br
steve
Title: Re: The overall specs
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 24, 2008, 00:18:29 am
Lol about time you figured out that resistance was a good things.... join the club bro. So your gonna need Stainless steel wire right ?

Well i have 312 000 feet of .005 430 fr  but its not coated yet, i'm waiting for this local company to call me back  so i can get it coated with Pyre-Ml 220 degress , this coating is expensive and rare as fuck....

thats right , 312 000 feet... 100 kilometres of wire lol..... 18.4 ohms per feet...

should i mention that this is also a *soft magnetic* alloy , Stan refers to it as magnetic inductive wire , its clear that this will create massive transcient voltages....

i need at least 150,000 feet for myself lol.... , i can probably sell  ya 1300 feet for ya  , hows 10\$ per 100 feet sound ? you will reach 11,600 ohms after only 635 feet ...

To reach 11,600 ohms with 38 awg you need 19,000 feet.... lol.... And these idiots tought stainless steel was too expensive haha....

Title: Re: The overall specs
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 24, 2008, 00:32:43 am
kinesisfilms,

Good information here.. thanks

Looking at the 1st photo you posted, it looks like the injector process .0074 ml of water at a time. this is a tiny droplet.

so I think, when this droplet enters the injector tapered cavity, it will bounce from negative to positive and disasociating during this process.

So now I really think we need to build that tapered cavity to test this.

what you guys think...
Title: Re: The overall specs
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 24, 2008, 00:55:24 am
stevie....beautiful news i will order one the minute i collect money this weekend.

electrojolt: and as stated in the tech brief the water injector can be cylindrical shape, tapered, or of other form like his one image with a circular housig with a ball electrode in the middle.....anything can be used as long as it has a positive and negative voltage field.....TAPERED WOULD BE IDEAL....but to machine this sounds like hell.

dankie: i have known for a while that resistance played an important role and when hydrocars finally made that topic everything clicked.....now pieces are still falling into place to make the overall image clearer.

my question to everyone is that if i pulse a capacitor bank of 6 capacitors in the khz range even though they are rated at 50-60HZ what would happen?......now i know an ignition coil has a very fast response time and with the beautiful news that a car ignition coil has a resistance of or around 11.6kohm.......i am leaning towards hydrocars explanation and kevin wests comparison to radio systems.......i swear we are on the edge of it......shit is about to go down.....my pulse width will be back up and running soon.....i'm on teh hands on again.
Title: Re: The overall specs
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 24, 2008, 01:02:24 am
stevie....beautiful news i will order one the minute i collect money this weekend.

electrojolt: and as stated in the tech brief the water injector can be cylindrical shape, tapered, or of other form like his one image with a circular housig with a ball electrode in the middle.....anything can be used as long as it has a positive and negative voltage field.....TAPERED WOULD BE IDEAL....but to machine this sounds like hell.

dankie: i have known for a while that resistance played an important role and when hydrocars finally made that topic everything clicked.....now pieces are still falling into place to make the overall image clearer.

my question to everyone is that if i pulse a capacitor bank of 6 capacitors in the khz range even though they are rated at 50-60HZ what would happen?......now i know an ignition coil has a very fast response time and with the beautiful news that a car ignition coil has a resistance of or around 11.6kohm.......i am leaning towards hydrocars explanation and kevin wests comparison to radio systems.......i swear we are on the edge of it......shit is about to go down.....my pulse width will be back up and running soon.....i'm on teh hands on again.

Lol me too kinesis.. me too , its clear that i was chosen for this.... this shit is gonna go down... but dont get cocky , because they WILL kill you or put you in jail..

I'm pretty sure 2curious figured out something special  , same for Dogs , Crux_wfc also figured it out thats 4 sure hes been spreading crap since then at his site . A few asians and indians probably also fired it out thats 4 sure, these guys are smart over there...

But there is an evolution going on , its like a calling... the elites just need  to accept it... i know how much danger this represents to them but i have no intention to change the world , not like some people around here ....

I know what lines not to cross , we are already being watched very very closely...

Title: Re: The overall specs
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 24, 2008, 01:29:37 am
dankie i looked into the 430fr wire about a year ago their is one company that owns the patent to the material blend  i forgot the name richmond?? i had them check  as of that time their has never been an order up untill then for 430fr wire in anything remotely as thin as what you bought at that time i belive they wanted 1800 dollars? to have the wire spun down to the diameter that you have and you had to buy a mill qaunity with a 4 month lead time total price was ?

all in all i dont think it has to be 430fr  to be right  it probably was 430f    but i would still like to get some if  your still around then

i can see the reason for the wire to be a magnetic stainless

but  the problem that everyone has is the pulse train is not right and the inductor  the inductor could be off a fair amout {10%} in both direction in millihenries and would have a some type of results were as most people look like they are just trying the same old as the last person {one of the downsides of forums}

people also get the fact their are about 20 different vic set ups and mix up gas processor circuits and
injector circuits with electrolysis ciruits  which waste most of their time

without a real gas processor not an ionizer the ignition coil you trying to make is useless

to make a gas processor you have to be able to make the  electrolysis vic work to understand how to make the gas processor work  led colors dont matter as much as its made out to be its the protons they emitt that count

basically you have to start from the bottom and work your way up dankie

to date the only one ive seen that has looked like they are on the right path is hydro with the i think it was the 961 repliction on you tube and then he stopped working on it for the ignition coil :'(  it would have been nice to see a scope shot just to  see for sure

Well i dont believe starting from the bottom is the right way to go , i'm going straight for the gold.... the injector. The injector is far far simpler and cheaper than his most advanced electrolysis method , i think that the complexities of a very efficient electrolyser cell will be much much more difficult to achieve.

The injector is a Electtron extraction circuit , air ionizer , laser primer all in one....

Yes 430F or FR can be used but 430f is just as hard to find , in fact 430 can be used , but i wouldnt try anything else since its not what stan recommends .
Title: Re: The overall specs
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 24, 2008, 01:58:15 am
how do you know if the the coils is working properly if you dont know what type of waveform comes out of it

how do you know what pulse train to put into it  or how to wind the coil if you dont know what it even is supposed to do

an air ionizer  is bs and wont do anything a gas processor is totally different

Lol ive been asking *very technical questions* all around but it seems i'm on my own designer from here on....

It might be slightly more complex what it looks like to comprehend exactly what is going on with this specific coil and the geometric configurations of the injector , it might me a little bit more.... esotheric

Yes the injector can act as can ambient air ionizer if you wanted too , watch the video closely...

Figure 8-9 has a laser right in the middle of the positive electrode of the injector for some added laser primed factured hydrogen effect... w/e you wanna call it...check it out

you have to narrow it down to simple possibilities and experiment...