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Electrolysis => The basics => Topic started by: Hydrocars on April 13, 2019, 10:29:37 am
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I would like to drop in here and make a quick update on stans VIC. Sorry if i'm not here all the time.
Stan told the truth when he said he pulsed his tubes at 20,000 cycles per second! I'm not exactly sure what he meant by that but due to research
I can tell you that at 20Mhz and any wavform will work. You have to have an oscilloscope because you have to tune it anywhere between 13 Mhz and 20 Mhz.
You shall tune till you see whats called "Ringing" at the start of the natural sine wave. Do not tune the ringing all the way threw the entire waveform. The Ringing rides on a sine wave. Let it ring for 1/4th of the timeframe of the sine. Voltage increases production. The fuel cell remains cold. The gas is far less volitile and the cell continues to run. Doesn't matter if you use a transformer or not, A function generator and scope is the only needed tools.
Have fun, later!
BTW, there is no step charge effect, but you will see unique bubbles thats huge. The gas is less volitile!!! Almost like it lacks oxygen.
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I would like to drop in here and make a quick update on stans VIC. Sorry if i'm not here all the time.
Stan told the truth when he said he pulsed his tubes at 20,000 cycles per second! I'm not exactly sure what he meant by that but due to research
I can tell you that at 20Mhz and any wavform will work. You have to have an oscilloscope because you have to tune it anywhere between 13 Mhz and 20 Mhz.
You shall tune till you see whats called "Ringing" at the start of the natural sine wave. Do not tune the ringing all the way threw the entire waveform. The Ringing rides on a sine wave. Let it ring for 1/4th of the timeframe of the sine. Voltage increases production. The fuel cell remains cold. The gas is far less volitile and the cell continues to run. Doesn't matter if you use a transformer or not, A function generator and scope is the only needed tools.
Have fun, later!
BTW, there is no step charge effect, but you will see unique bubbles thats huge. The gas is less volitile!!! Almost like it lacks oxygen.
Brian, 20,000hz is 20khz. Not 20mhz.....
So which frequency do you mean now?
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how does this effect the oxygen atom, that wants 8 electrons?
there has been no gas analysis of Stans gas out put or any of the big name experimenters. no one has the answer for that alone.
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how does this effect the oxygen atom, that wants 8 electrons?
there has been no gas analysis of Stans gas out put or any of the big name experimenters. no one has the answer for that alone.
I think your point is valid, Will. In this case, the size of the bubbles could indicate an electrical charge on the gas molecules, due to Coulomb repulsion. If it can be determined that there is such a charge, on at least one species, that might help us understand what's going on, with this particular system of gas production. Even if Stan's bubbles were smaller.
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I would like to drop in here and make a quick update on stans VIC. Sorry if i'm not here all the time.
Stan told the truth when he said he pulsed his tubes at 20,000 cycles per second! I'm not exactly sure what he meant by that but due to research
I can tell you that at 20Mhz and any wavform will work. You have to have an oscilloscope because you have to tune it anywhere between 13 Mhz and 20 Mhz.
You shall tune till you see whats called "Ringing" at the start of the natural sine wave. Do not tune the ringing all the way threw the entire waveform. The Ringing rides on a sine wave. Let it ring for 1/4th of the timeframe of the sine. Voltage increases production. The fuel cell remains cold. The gas is far less volitile and the cell continues to run. Doesn't matter if you use a transformer or not, A function generator and scope is the only needed tools.
Have fun, later!
BTW, there is no step charge effect, but you will see unique bubbles thats huge. The gas is less volitile!!! Almost like it lacks oxygen.
A picture is worth a thousand words .
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Between 10 and 20MHZ, MegaHertz!
You look for "Ringing", Voltages as small as 12 volts will work with distilled water. Try it!
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Stevie, if you can search and find my old alternator setup diagram I drew in paintshop , looked like I drew it with a crayon, I will tell all of you a secret... It was also posted on waterfuelcell.org, I can not find it anywhere.
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I would still like to have that pic, but anways, here is a tip, "for the alternator setup". and, self resonance..
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Stevie, if you can search and find my old alternator setup diagram I drew in paintshop , looked like I drew it with a crayon, I will tell all of you a secret... It was also posted on waterfuelcell.org, I can not find it anywhere.
You self deleted all those pics.... :(
We used the power of the charged wfc to power the rotor of the alternator.
So, we charged the wfc with external power and then let it ran
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Stevie, we charged the roter for a brief second, I used it without a fuel cell many times on other things. But the diodes I had is why I got a different result, I'm just now realizing that! Also, these diodes, OMG, I'll update this later 🤔
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why suppress voltage ?
TVS are in most electronic catalogs
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Where have you been massive? Something so simple yet I overlooked! Also, Stevie, I will report a very old circuit me and you tested years ago.
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Where have you been massive? Something so simple yet I overlooked! Also, Stevie, I will report a very old circuit me and you tested years ago.
I am looking forward to it :)
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Stevie, we charged the roter for a brief second, I used it without a fuel cell many times on other things. But the diodes I had is why I got a different result, I'm just now realizing that! Also, these diodes, OMG, I'll update this later 🤔
So, what does these diodes add, Brian?
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It's Difficult for me to be exactly true at the moments, However, There is something very different! I am not yet sure if its a reverse base breakdown.
I was getting different results with the frequency on the alternater setup back in the day and I couldnt not explain why, nor did I understand why everyone elses was different from mine. The other day I ran into something, then I realized I used Axial Diodes with my original alternator setup. Something about the diodes act differently.
I once upon a time got a coil to emf the Dc capacitor threw the diode, at a lucky time the diode would break down and the capacitor would charge the coil, then a back emf would again charge the capacitor immediatly. there was an resonance occurring that i've never seen before. I havent yet been able to replicate my own work.
I have noticed, to keep something in resonance from dying out, you give it a slight push, and it keeps going.
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It's Difficult for me to be exactly true at the moments, However, There is something very different! I am not yet sure if its a reverse base breakdown.
I was getting different results with the frequency on the alternater setup back in the day and I couldnt not explain why, nor did I understand why everyone elses was different from mine. The other day I ran into something, then I realized I used Axial Diodes with my original alternator setup. Something about the diodes act differently.
I once upon a time got a coil to emf the Dc capacitor threw the diode, at a lucky time the diode would break down and the capacitor would charge the coil, then a back emf would again charge the capacitor immediatly. there was an resonance occurring that i've never seen before. I havent yet been able to replicate my own work.
I have noticed, to keep something in resonance from dying out, you give it a slight push, and it keeps going.
Did you use a tvs diode in the same way we normal diodes uses?
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Brian, i found this old schematic of the alternator setup.....