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Re: Update. Water Is A Fuel!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2013, 20:46:29 pm »
Anybody that does not believe water is a fuel, please watch the video I posted in the beginning of this thread. When I shot that video, I did not have the knowledge I am giving you here today. Looking back, it makes great since to me.

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Re: Update. Water Is A Fuel!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2013, 22:42:01 pm »
redox reactions are electrons exchange between atoms.. what you need to create are the right conditions for plasma creation.. this way you can turn air into plasma and with a little chemistry create a fuel from water air and hydrocarbon traces... it's important to follow the right order. Boiling oil does electron exchange with anything that comes into "contact" to return to equilibrium.
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Re: Update. Water Is A Fuel!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2013, 18:31:05 pm »
HI Hydrocars
Is the flash point of water reached in process of pyrolysis of water?
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Re: Update. Water Is A Fuel!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2013, 07:09:55 am »
I dont really understand your question since the word  pyrolysis is over my vocabulary. Id rather not comment I'm unsure what your asking. But, water dont have a flash point, Unless gas from electrolysis is added, then you have a flashpoint. It should be around 212F I havent tested the temperature of the Flash point I just know its there, Like in the video in the first post of this thread. 

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Re: Update. Water Is A Fuel!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2013, 07:21:38 am »
So water has a FlashPoint of 212F when Hydroxy is added. Yes, a Combustible gas is formed at that temperature, it is again, a fuel. It can be altered by mixing desired gases and carbons at this point. it seems the flashpoint might contradict the burn point, due to a high temperature smuthering out the flame I DONT KNOW, I am unsure if the COOLER in the video is needed. I have reached the flashpoint of water before without it with other cells just as the steam and hydrogen exited the fuel cell.

Rather than have an X amount of Steam and a small amount of hydroxy in 1 fuel cell you cant control, it is better to keep a cold cell to produce a low amount of hydroxy and just mix it into steam to get your combustible gas. It should be further experimented with in future test in your lab or work/hobby shop.

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Re: Update. Water Is A Fuel!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2013, 09:12:33 am »
Hydrocars
Pyrolysis of water is termical process of decomposition water to hydrogen and oxygen gas ( flammable gas ) at high temperature. My english is limited.
What is percentage of hydroxy gas to steam to trigger flash point of water ( 212 F ) and what presure?
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Re: Update. Water Is A Fuel!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2013, 21:52:55 pm »
My cell produces about 4 to 4.5 liters of hydroxy per minute. If I run it hard it produces 5 liters. At the waters smoke point the hydroxy causes the steam to go into a flashpoint. I'm assuming at this point in time the fuel cell is so hot it fails to produce a good quality of hydroxy gas to sustain the flashpoint. The cooling coil in the video seemed to cool the gas to where it could be lite or else it would have blown out without cooling the combustible gas. I have performed this in a different setup but I could have produced the mix differently which allowed me a bypass of the cooling coil condensor. I'm not 100% water has no flash point, I know adding hydroxy amplifys it 100 fold. It could be possible to run a diesel on water if the flashpoint of the water is used, and injections of small amounts of hydroxy gas should be introduced.

I am uncertain how to answer, I produce enough gas with a cold cell to mix with smoked water on startup, I have not done any test to measure the mix, I have good ideal it takes a smaller amount of hydroxy and larger amount of water smoke. Water is a Fuel just as gas, kerosine, Diesel, Burnt oil, then water. I believe the fuel needs help getting started, just as oil does accept water is a (SYNTHETIC FUEL)

Pressure is not important, this was done with a sealed cell with a ball valve output wide open conencted to a barbed fitting and 1 quarter " hole feeding into a cooler coil. Only because the steam was aiding in pressure increases inside the cell just as a soda bottle when you shake it. Pressure was sustained at its very own desired rate not mine, it depended on the size of the hole in the barbed fitting and copper line.

You could experement on any cell that produces steam, but if enough hydroxy isn't generated then there will be no flashpoint. Why not just get a good hydroxy source, and good smoke point source and start testing and documenting. Right now I relocated and my lab is being moved to my new location, it will be a long time before I am able to test again. Right now I'm heating my home off the grid, and so far managed 130F out the supplie grills  8)

You see, stan was heating water in that solar silo when he seen water was a fuel. He stopped on the silo and begin to run the lawn mower engine on water.  ;)

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Re: Update. Water Is A Fuel!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2013, 19:42:37 pm »
Hydrocars
Thank you for ansver and detailed explanation.
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