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Dankie:
2curious is an RF engineer @ waterfuelcell.org .

Here is a pm from 2curious , most of you probably read this but I want you guys to read it again ?

Theres a double resonance here , the "vacuum can be resonated" , ... Just Look @ 2curious's sig

don't get me wrong, but can you please cut down on the PM a little bit as I have no time left for other things.
Thanks.

TWO, resonances, yes. An electrical one, used to achieve high voltage with little effort.

And an acoustical one (or mechanical if you will), eg. oscillation of particles.(the nucleus and electrons of the atoms)

Yes, it does makes things more complex, that's why many seem to have trouble. This SM
WFC is not a joke, it is quite cutting edge. Too much for most.

my question to him : I'm not really sure what Stan means anymore by *negative voltages* , could this possibly be 2 opposite currents colliding inside the cell , or does this just mean more potential difference like a house +120 and -120 = 240 volt difference Huh Maybe this circuit have bipolar currents of same time phase and equal intensity , Plz have a look at this quote ....

Right, you got it. Two equal AND opposite voltages (or minor currents if you will) with respect to
a virtual ground, as per SM quote.

Yes, they arrive at the same time in the cell. So particles (or molecules if you will are been stressed
equally from each electrode).

So your example is not quite right !!! Correct it would be: +120V + -120V = 0V

So, look at figure 10-5. See it now ? See how he shows a mirror image of the positive waveform vs. the negative waveform and in the center line exactly zero ?

outlawstc:
those potentials i think are created by the displacement of electrons.. the emf is only allowed to flow one way due to the diodes.. you keep yanking electrons out the positive side and they build up on the negative side.. copper has 29 electrons and 29 protons.. thats a neutral charge.. when you start removing them from the posiitve and forcing them in the negative side it creates real oposite potentials not oscillating electron potential like AC..   thats like what 2 curious is saying.. the +120 is a side missing electrons to create a positive proton charge..  get my drift? the copper chokes on my alternator drawing are connected to air ionization only.. the stainless hooks to the cell, the middle stator and positve induction side of the primary rotor winding..  i have not had the money to do any work on my alternator ideas but i bet it would work.. the concept.. since the copper choke is being used for the air ionization it can establish higher displaced potentials since there is minimal leakage over the airgap.  the stainless is coupling the coppers potential at the same time.. so when signal 49a xxx 49b pulses through the rotor it is allowing a echo to occur between the secondary and primary.. i beleive this echo technique is only used for the alternator version.. the 6-1 has primary and secondary on same mutual core.. the the primary 3.3 amps are reacting not just with secondary but both. secondary and stainless.

outlawstc

Dankie:

--- Quote from: outlawstc on March 17, 2009, 00:07:59 am ---those potentials i think are created by the displacement of electrons.. the emf is only allowed to flow one way due to the diodes.. you keep yanking electrons out the positive side and they build up on the negative side.. copper has 29 electrons and 29 protons.. thats a neutral charge.. when you start removing them from the posiitve and forcing them in the negative side it creates real oposite potentials not oscillating electron potential like AC..   thats like what 2 curious is saying.. the +120 is a side missing electrons to create a positive proton charge..  get my drift? the copper chokes on my alternator drawing are connected to air ionization only.. the stainless hooks to the cell, the middle stator and positve induction side of the primary rotor winding..  i have not had the money to do any work on my alternator ideas but i bet it would work.. the concept.. since the copper choke is being used for the air ionization it can establish higher displaced potentials since there is minimal leakage over the airgap.  the stainless is coupling the coppers potential at the same time.. so when signal 49a xxx 49b pulses through the rotor it is allowing a echo to occur between the secondary and primary.. i beleive this echo technique is only used for the alternator version.. the 6-1 has primary and secondary on same mutual core.. the the primary 3.3 amps are reacting not just with secondary but both. secondary and stainless.

outlawstc

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No I dont understand , but I think I do , but plz re-explain with somekind of drawing and extra well tought out idea .

Do you mean like , when both equal and opposite signals (ELECTRONS ) meet at the water bath , @ off pulse the electrons that were on the positive side of the cell cannot go back to thew wire (wich is missing electrons ) since there is a diode , so it goes throught from the negative side and this causes a *real voltage* in the cell??

outlawstc:
good question dankie,  let me explain this.. this is all based off the way my mind visualizes the non seeable (atoms)... electric itself happens at a atomic level..  a electron puts off a field of neg energy.. that energy can be used for power in a oscillating manner. which we know in todays world as alternating current .  now forget all that lol. diodes in plumping terms can be considered back flow preventors..  when you have a emf (electromagnetic force) involved with these back flow preventers  pretend electons (ether) is water..  the diode lets the electrons  flow opposite of the arrow.. the positive energy really is not flowing into the positive choke but more or less the electrons are  being extracted. so it puts copper in a higher state and inbalances that choke to that positve charge. its all about balance for the atoms.. 29 protons 29 electrons= neutral.. so by removing electrons from positive due to emf. which causes displacement of electrons. the positive choke starts to be like 28 electrons and 29 protons.. the more emf (electromagnetic force with one directional flow of electrons ) the more potential builds on each side of chokes.. the positive gain in potential keeps counting down the electron count in that choke,while there being forced into the negative choke with the vic sync.  focus on learning holes and electrons.. focus on virtual flow of potential. its all on the atomic level.. by putting oxy in a positive state is no different then what the emf does in a rectified manner to copper positive chokes .. i have not justified this but damn sure hope to soon..  sorry i havent been to visual with REAL things but i will let you know i built my own lawton with no prior electronic skillz a year ago.. also the alternator with a 3hp 220 elec motor(working on rewinding now). i have had gas production.. but no where near hydros or most..  i havent had money with this economy to do so..  as for a visual for what im speaking of .. look at my alternator drawing that is labeled 180 in.. i have the holes and electrons labeled with direction flow.. also notice unipolar existence in the windings. which created its dominance do to the diodes. i see this  in deep thought.. have not made it nor can prove it yet.  6-1 is different since you have a 3 amp current passing over the whole deal. it creates the drive means and potenital at the same time from what i see. the secondarys are pulling off the same job as the alternator set up.. but the current force of the primary is interacting in the same manner as the positive stainless chokes job on the alternator version. giving a drive means to pulse the high volts into the water????  this is all vision.. but u know damn well its a good one lol

cheers
outlawstc