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Re: My 8XA circuit
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 05:51:42 am »
Awesome video Don, Very informative!

I like the meows in the background too! 

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Re: My 8XA circuit
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 11:22:49 am »
Hi Don,

Thanks for the video. Looks great!
Question:
How high are your peaks in Vpp?
Meaning, you rectifiy the 20VAC to certain unregulated DC voltage. Are your VPP at the cell higher then the basic unregulated dc peaks?

Steve

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I also have a cat....meaning, she has me as hear servant....

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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 11:31:20 am »
Another question, Don:

Can you check the following thing for me, please?
Measure very carefull till how low the voltage drops at the cell during pulse off periode with the choke coils in place and without the choke coils.........

Appreciated!

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Re: My 8XA circuit
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2011, 16:34:25 pm »
Steve, The voltage at the cell is the same as the applied.There is no increase of voltage with the chokes.I think that is do to the cell not being pulsed at a resonance frequency to match the chokes with the cell.I doubt that I would be able to check the voltage during the off pulse with my fluke meter,because the refresh rate of the meter can't cycle that fast.I'll try though.If you look at the scope shot,it returns to 0 volts each time.

Yes Tony if I adjust the frequency,you can get it down to the three pulse signal like in the schematic.I never checked the frequency.

I didn't notice my wifes cat in the background,she's about 6 months old and she in heat for the first time,so she does that all day.
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Re: My 8XA circuit
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2011, 16:40:28 pm »
I think you need to resonate those coils somehow. This is what allows the potential to rise... it need at least 20kv or more... Maybe the tx5 could be connected only between ground and the negative side of the cell and the secondary connected directly into the cell passing only thru the tx4 coil and the diode. This would allow some leakage thru the cell that may be somewhat needed in order to resonate the coils. the secondary however must be isolated from ground or will spark. 


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Re: My 8XA circuit
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2011, 18:40:02 pm »
Seb,

My signal goes away when I try the two diode setup as you described and drew.  I wound 1000' of 28 gauge in six well insulated individual layers with an iron wire primary single layer of iron wire on top of it all.  With my 1000' 28 gauge chokes added it reaches 9KV PTP with little gas.  I'll try to run at 20hz and gate to observe any new stuff and see if I can duplicate Don and Tony's output signal. 

It appears that the required kv voltage talked about by many for success and Don's 20hz approach while being true to the drawing are in conflict.

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Re: My 8XA circuit
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 19:18:25 pm »
kickbackemf,
  You need to remember that the 8xa circuit is only meant to show amp restriction.It's not a resonant system and it's not meant to put out high voltage.

They are two different systems.The vic coil arrangement came about later when resonance was found.

The 8xa still uses amps to pull apart the water.It is believed that you will need over 1kv to do it with voltage only.

The 8xa only shows that if you can restrict the amps,it will allow more voltage to be applied to the cell.
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Re: My 8XA circuit
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2011, 19:20:43 pm »
my primary have 50 turns and secondary 250 flyback core with a 0.1mm gap... with he two diodes and a small capacitor in parallel with each diode.... just to keep it from blowing... applying from 100hz up to 50khz.... gating from 20hz up to 5khz... is not the 8xa circuit is the pll with the transformer and chokes in other core...