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electrojolt:
Very poor patent indid.

Now this brings up another point:

You don't need much to get a patent approved.

outlawstc:
i wouldnt go as fas as saying you dont need much for a patent.. that patent looks as if its missing alot.. stuff they dont want public right now maybe..

hydro has always said that are cars are the most wastefull in non efficient machine made.. i think i see where he is coming from.. gasoline is nothin more hten carbon and hydrogen as we all know..   i would say the reason why we are so wasteful is no matter what earths air doesnt have enough oxy in it to fully catalize the fuel and burn it completely..thats why we have a catalitic converter to try to burn off the rest..  thats also why they make super chargers and air blowers for performance..

now stans uses a fuel source that gives its own oxy on a even ratio per hydrogens capable of catalizing to neutral after ignition..so no matter what you know you are supplying enough oxygen to complete the burn.. now heres somthing that popped in my head yeasterday.. no one really has spoken about the butterfly gate stan uses on the intake... this butterfly gate i would say is restricting airflow of the ambient air.. createing a more present vacuum in the intake.. since i dont think mass airflow is required like gasolines non oxygen supplying capabilities

itzon:

--- Quote from: outlawstc on May 19, 2009, 15:57:36 pm ---
now stans uses a fuel source that gives its own oxy on a even ratio per hydrogens capable of catalizing to neutral after ignition..so no matter what you know you are supplying enough oxygen to complete the burn.. now heres somthing that popped in my head yeasterday.. no one really has spoken about the butterfly gate stan uses on the intake... this butterfly gate i would say is restricting airflow of the ambient air.. createing a more present vacuum in the intake.. since i dont think mass airflow is required like gasolines non oxygen supplying capabilities

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Dynodon I hope your reading this  as you have seen this firsthand.

I was thinking of the air processor and started looking at the photo of Stan's latest stuff (injectors, solenoids, laser distributor, butterfly air gate, etc.

Is the air(gas) processor under vacuum...where is the butterfly air gate located?

I know at least one of the photos makes it look like the air(gas) processor is sucking air directly in, but I know that's not right without an air filter. 

This is on my mind right now and I'm posting this before I go looking through the photos again, but it's stuck in my mind and I think it's important to know where that butterfly air gate is located because there's no reason not to just use the carb butterfly gate if the air processor isn't under vacuum.

Mikemongo

Radiant_1:
@Outlaw

--- Quote ---hydro has always said that are cars are the most wastefull in non efficient machine made.. i think i see where he is coming from.. gasoline is nothin more hten carbon and hydrogen as we all know..   i would say the reason why we are so wasteful is no matter what earths air doesnt have enough oxy in it to fully catalize the fuel and burn it completely..thats why we have a catalitic converter to try to burn off the rest..  thats also why they make super chargers and air blowers for performance..
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The reason ICE engines are inefficient are for two reasons, first is the incomplete burn...but this is because car companies do not "Atomize" the fuel (look up fuel oil backpacking stoves), instead they use a fuel injector to spray tiny drops (many many molecules)....then they restrict airflow with crappy intakes. It's not because there isn't enough O2...it's because the physicality of the dimensions and poor air flow, mixed with too big of drops to completely burn (the intense heat from a complete burn would need to be addressed too)
Secondly, the "Prime Mover" in the system is heat transfer (expanding air). Most of that heat energy we make is just wasted OUT THE TAILPIPE.

All cars need to "atomize" (literally means single atoms/single molecules...easiest way is with heat) their fuel first...then the exhaust needs to be fashioned much like a radiator...have that radiator section boiling water for the turbine to then create high voltage energy for the production of hydrogen/oxygen, and surplus energy/electricity for w/e!   ;D  In fact this is what Dingel needed to do, his car starts on gasoline then is switched over. This is how the GEET system works too!!

@Mikemongo


--- Quote ---Dynodon I hope your reading this  as you have seen this firsthand.

I was thinking of the air processor and started looking at the photo of Stan's latest stuff (injectors, solenoids, laser distributor, butterfly air gate, etc.

Is the air(gas) processor under vacuum...where is the butterfly air gate located?

I know at least one of the photos makes it look like the air(gas) processor is sucking air directly in, but I know that's not right without an air filter.

This is on my mind right now and I'm posting this before I go looking through the photos again, but it's stuck in my mind and I think it's important to know where that butterfly air gate is located because there's no reason not to just use the carb butterfly gate if the air processor isn't under vacuum.

Mikemongo
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Stan's Gas Processor does sit on top the manifold, above the butterfly. (No carb...Gas proc.... throttle body/air intake...then gas injectors
Since the Gas Proc. is on the intake it experiences a vacuum...the same vacuum that sucks air in through the carburetor. (It was pictured w/o a filter is all...I have patents where the filters there.)

31 is the filter
32 is a restricting device (solenoid valve)
20 is the Gas Proc
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/Jdub6d9/Untitled-1-2.jpg)

(This is kinda in the wrong thread...but I wanted to address this too...)

Dankie:
http://www.newobjective.com/electrospray/

There was a patent allowed for a fuel injector for  gasoline that revolved around this . Let me remember that patent , I made a post of this on OUpower.com

It was a replacement for the spark-plug and was itself a spark plug at the same time .

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