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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #264 on: April 13, 2009, 03:56:25 am »
this is with just the regular 50 ohm probe load.
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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #265 on: April 13, 2009, 04:06:35 am »
this is what it is donald......you guys have me drawing up a storm.....sorry for the serial killer-like handwriting.
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and dankie...prove it??? there is a scope shot...do you want me to bleed for you or something.

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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #266 on: April 13, 2009, 04:16:09 am »
Ok, the voltage spike... not sure what that is, but it's nice to know what was causing my confusion.

Also, is this double frequency? If you look at my "B" or the second half of your drawing, (which are similar) ... that shows one "pulse" for each "high and low"

and another thing i just noticed, in your first scope shot, the pulse starts on "high" and ends on a "low", whereas on your second scope shot the pulse starts on "low" and ends on a "high" .. i didn't notice this when i drew my first picture, and i drew them both as "low"-"high", but the difference is probably significant.

in your picture you drew them both as "high"-"low"

feel free to ignore me and deal with more important experiments and explanations, i am just curious, and i'll figure this out when i get my hands dirty.

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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #267 on: April 13, 2009, 04:21:56 am »
THIS IS HOW YOU PULSE IT

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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #268 on: April 13, 2009, 04:25:08 am »
haha well no problem but the first scope shot was taken yesterday at some unknown frequency.....the second shot was taken today at some unknown frequency.......that is why they are different.....i thought that was understood from when i posted them.....but if you look you will see the second one has more sqaure waves (higher frequency).......these are from 2 seperate days (post dates and times can be seen on this thread) you can get teh double pulse at any frequency so it does not matter when and where it starts as long as it is double......the voltage spike as i said earlier gave me an extra 20 volts.....i mention all of this in the posts......

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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #269 on: April 13, 2009, 04:31:27 am »
haha outlaw wow you are completely wrong...even your input pulse is completely wrong.....NICE TRY....so you think it is a step charging input eh?......READ THE TECH BRIEF......why is this such a difficult problem...i can't be here all day doing screengrabs for the lazy.......you and dankie are both wrong....im sorry but you are......i havae been working on this for over a year and have tried everything to get a double pulse as stated in the tech brief not some rectified crap......and now i havae exactly what stan talks about.....it is identical....and your saying i am connecting it wrong?......and then try and show me the wrong input signal?.....what is that a saw wave...ahaahah.....this is too much and i am tired of all this nonsense.

believe whatever it is that makes you feel like you "know" it.....

i am going to continue until it is finally done.

also: your photo doesn't show anything logical.....where is the input on the vic coil??? where is the output??? are you telling me only 2 wires come out of the coil?....and i like your magic scope connections.....i took the time to draw and label you should too.

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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #270 on: April 13, 2009, 04:38:07 am »
Voltage Amplitude Control Circuit (50)
Voltage amplitude control circuit (50) of Figure (3-5) performs several functions
simultaneously: First, regulates car battery electrical voltage potential (32) of Figure (3-15) being
applied to primary coil (26) of Figure (3-21); and secondly, regulates gas pressure of Fuel Cell
(120) of Figure (3-22), as graphically depicted in Figure (3-15). Each regulatory stage (27) and
(28) works separately and independent of each other but are! electronically linked or coupled
together to produce a common analog signal (32) having a predetermined voltage level (32a xxx),
as further shown in Figure (3-15).

Regulator stage (27) of circuit (50) converts battery voltage potential (29) of Figure (3-6) via
electrical terminal (31) of Figure (3-5) as to Figure (3-6) into a analog voltage signal (32) of Figure
(3-15) which corresponds to but is electrically isolated (crossover voltage from two separate power
supplies) from incoming gas volume signal (23) of Figure (3-14), as shown in Figure (35). Variable
voltage range (32a xxx 32n) from one (1) up to twelve (12) volts (regulating battery voltage) is
applied across primary coil (26) of Voltage Intensifier Circuit (60) of Figure (3-21). Second regulator
stage (28) simply acts and function as a gas regulator (33) by preventing Fuel Gas production beyond
a predetermined gas pressure level (


ok thats for the positve side


Cell Driver Circuit (90)
In either case, the resultant or varied pulse train (47a xxx 47n) (calibration of 44a xxx 44n)
becomes incoming gated pulse signal (48) of figure (3-5) to cell driver circuit (90) of Figure (3-5)
which performs a switching function by switching "off' and "on" electric ground being applied to
opposite side (48) of primary coil (26)
of Figure (3-19). The resultant pulse wave form (49a xxx 49n)
of Figure (3-18) superimposed onto primary coil (26) is exact duplicate of proportional pulse train (47a
xxx 47n). However, each pulse train (47) (49) are electrically isolated from each other. Only voltage
cross-over from regulated power supply (150) of Figure (3-6) to battery supply (28) occurs, as
illustrated in Figure (3-6).

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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #271 on: April 13, 2009, 04:48:33 am »
I've decided I don't know enough to keep up with this topic at the current time. I'll be reading, and when I get going I'll start getting involved again.

You guys should just make a truce, and agree that we are all on the same team, here to learn, and help.

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