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hydro:
Just do it like i did with the alabama post,, we'll get this thing going as requested.

bjorn:

--- Quote from: hydro on March 16, 2008, 00:17:19 am ---Just do it like i did with the alabama post,, we'll get this thing going as requested.

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Hi, I am Bjorn a retired Marine Engineer from the Norwegian Merchant Marine. Immigrated to Canada in 1969. I now live outside Vancouver on the Sunshine coast in a beautiful place called Halfmoon Bay.
I have always been interested in hydrogen for fuel ever since we had experiment with a electrolysis in grade 7 in elementary school. That time in Norway they called it knall gas. Already that time I asked my teacher why they did not use hydrogen for fuel? The answer I got was that hydrogen was so powerful that it would blow the engine apart. Now we now that that was not the case, or the problem. I have made a hydrogen generator about 20 years ago out of a pwc pipe with a few stainless steel plates and some caustic soda and water in my electrolyser. It worked. Saved about 20% on my gas consumption. I have to admit that I was not very happy with that, so I put the whole idea on the shelf.
A few months ago I found a lot of new things about hydrogen on the internet. Some people claim that they made 3-4 liter a minute. I have to see that before I believe it. Then I found Stan Meyers site, and I got excited again. I believe that it's possible to produce enough gas the way he did it, but l have not enough knowledge about the electronic parts of his system to understand how he did it.
As I understand, he is not the only one that have powered his car only on hydrogen. I read about a man in the Philippines to that are running his car only on hydrogen, and I think it is a few others too. All kinds of ideas is running around in my head. If somebody could make a hydrogen generator that could produce 1 liter a minute, that means that it could produce 60 liter an hour. With a injection system, would that not be enough to run the car?? An average car to day will burn about 10 liter of gas for 100 km. With the hydrogen 3 times stronger that the gasoline, it should do the same job with only 1/3 of the amount. Gasoline is injected in to the cylinders as vapor. With most of the hydrogen generators I have learned about they mixes the hydrogen that also have oxygen in it in the inlet to the cylinder with gasoline and air. In my mind that means that the hydrogen are so mixed up with so much air that it have lost lot of it's power when it get in to the cylinder. It is tinned out to much with air. So if you could inject the hydrogen that already have oxygen in to the cylinders without all the air from the air intake, your combustion will be much stronger because it will be more concentrated hydrogen. Another thing is that gasoline need  compressed air hot air to burn properly. Hydrogen-oxygen H2-O2 don't. It's all there. So theoretically we could have an engine with only one exhost valve and ignition every time the piston are on the top. This is theories but I am sure it would work if we only could produce enough hydrogen on board. I am retired, so I have lots of time for experimenting and make things and I have lots of experience but not much money. Have been working as a Machinist, Welder, Engine Fitter, Toolmaker and Sheet Metal Worker.
I like to work with somebody that are interested in making a better environment for us and generations after us. If we could get this working and made up plans how to do it and spread it out to people all over the world, that wold be nothing that could stop it. Just each person sending it to ten people and they send it to ten and so on it would not take long before it would be unstoppable. No I hope I will hear from some of you, and hear comments about my ideas.
I am a honest person and proud of it.
Bjorn   
     



Donaldwfc:
water has 2.5x the hydrogen of gasoline, but when you separate it, it expands 1800 times, so if a car burns 10 liters of gas for 100 km, then you need to split and burn 4 liters of water, which is 7200 liters of hydrogen and oxygen gas, at atmospheric pressure.


Stans patent called control and driver circuits says that one 3" cell can convert 5 gallons of water per hour, which is 2.5 gallons of hydrogen and oxygen per second.


your skills will help you, nobody on the internet can tell you how it works, and if they could, you wouldn't be able to make it work anyway, the background information and knowledge goes so deep, you just have to do your homework so you know what is behind every detail

HMS-776:
Bjorn,
 
I agree with donaldwfc on the following:

--- Quote ---nobody on the internet can tell you how it works, and if they could, you wouldn't be able to make it work anyway, the background information and knowledge goes so deep, you just have to do your homework so you know what is behind every detail.
--- End quote ---

There are quite a few of us who have been researching and posting on these sites for a few years with only minimal success. There are many variables within the circuit, and if any one of them is not right the circuit will not work. For me, the more I have learned about Meyer, the more I realized that I didn't know. There is a steep learning curve involved in this. The principle of it is very basic and easy to understand. Replicating takes a great deal of knowledge.
 
In fact, just before Stan Meyer passed away he obtained funding for a multi-million dollar R & D facility. After over 20 years of work he had not brought anything to market. I believe that he did show it can be done, and his technology really could change the world in a way which man could only dream of until it becomes a reality.

Steve:
Welcome Bjorn to ionizationx  :)

I think most is already said.
There is a lot of info here and on the internet.
Go have a look at the Meyer documents here and start reading.
Also dont wait to long with building....thats a great tool to learn the details better.

If you have questions, just drop them here in a post. Many members here to assist you.

Steve

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