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Title: The real test and development description of Stan Meyers voltage based system
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 26, 2017, 20:53:56 pm
Dear all,

Please re read this patent. Take your time.
I think he clearly explains how to go and on how to use resistors and pulses to restrict amps and to raise voltage.
His secondairy does a 200 volts, according to his writing....

cheers
Title: Re: The real test and development description of Stan Meyers voltage based system
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 26, 2017, 20:58:38 pm
"The next circuit comprises an electron inhibitor that prevents the flow of electrons; the circuit being in the terminal line between the negative plate exciter and ground. In those applications of the generator wherein excessively high voltage is to be applied to the plate exciters for a very high yield of gasses, a second electron inhibitor of a unique structure is serially connected with the first electron inhibiter. The second named inhibiter having a relatively fixed value and the first inhibiter connected in series is variable to fine tune the circuits to eliminate current flow.""

That sounds familiair.........2 chokes? Maybe not needed?
Title: Re: The real test and development description of Stan Meyers voltage based system
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 01, 2017, 14:07:45 pm
Hello Steve and all.

The problem using resistors is the power loss because it dissipates in form of heat.
Title: Re: The real test and development description of Stan Meyers voltage based system
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 03, 2017, 20:54:36 pm
Thats not a problem in the first stages, i think.
First is to prove that it works  :)
Title: Re: The real test and development description of Stan Meyers voltage based system
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 06, 2017, 17:25:09 pm
i was thinking about it... resistors although it dissipate power it also develop a potential that is proportional to the resistance x current..
Title: Re: The real test and development description of Stan Meyers voltage based system
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 16, 2017, 15:12:38 pm
Its probably even more simple.
Let me share my thoughts here. I have been reading some docs again and again from Meyer.
We all want to find the resonance effect Meyer is talking about.

Meyer stated that for that to achieve you need:
A MINIMUM voltage level to achieve resonance.
To raise voltage and not to go into massive amps, Meyer puts in some kind of amp inhibitors, like resistive elements or coils that create a magnetic field to resist amp flow.
In case of coils/cores, the frequency of those coils/cores must be equal to the resonance frequency of the cavity.

So, it is clear how to start testing. First you build your cavity, add resistance on the negative inner exciter and start pulsing with a voltage of a minimum of 45 volts. See Meyers patent.
AS SOON AS YOU HIT RESONANCE, YOU SHOULD THE DIFFERENCE IN GAS OUTPUT.
As soon as you found the frequency and voltage, you can start building coils and cores that matches that frequency for more efficiency.

Meyer states that the voltage pulses should never go lower in amplitude as the minimum level of voltage, because the resonance will stop.
Meyers statement about electron leakage is also part of this minimum level of voltage. The cell should not drop below certain levels.
Funny to know that the VIC has its own floating ground, probably to prevent the charged cell to leak to ground.

cheers


Title: Re: The real test and development description of Stan Meyers voltage based system
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 22, 2017, 05:11:02 am
Funny to know that the VIC has its own floating ground, probably to prevent the charged cell to leak to ground.

cheers

The way Stan talks about it in the patent, I thinks he WANTS to drain the charge. He keeps saying the cell will arc between the plates, even at 5.5V or 8V. Then, right at the end he says it won't short out at just about any voltage if the negative plate is grounded through a resister. This resister probably needs to be at the opposite end from the negative connection, to prevent a strip line effect.
Title: Re: The real test and development description of Stan Meyers voltage based system
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 02, 2017, 17:20:45 pm
Funny to know that the VIC has its own floating ground, probably to prevent the charged cell to leak to ground.

cheers

The way Stan talks about it in the patent, I thinks he WANTS to drain the charge. He keeps saying the cell will arc between the plates, even at 5.5V or 8V. Then, right at the end he says it won't short out at just about any voltage if the negative plate is grounded through a resister. This resister probably needs to be at the opposite end from the negative connection, to prevent a strip line effect.

Where did you read draining part?
Might it be the resonance effect that he charged the cell and then drain a bit back into a coil system and re charge the cell again with the normal and drained charge together?
Sort of resonance?

Title: Re: The real test and development description of Stan Meyers voltage based system
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 03, 2017, 04:51:04 am
Where did you read draining part?

The last paragraph of Column 8 states:

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The electron leakage resistor will again raise the upper limit of 8.5 volts amplitude before breakdown as shown at L-5 of FIG. 8. In the generation of the hydrogen and oxygen gasses to an infinite limit, as yet not fully appreciated, the upper level of amplitude of the voltage is removed with the utilization of the electron inhibitor of FIG. 7.

The two paragraphs above that are also relevant. 

When he talks about electron leakage, he means from one plate to the other - through the water.  So this resistor is draining the electrons which would other wise flow through the cell. This resistor is shown as "60" in FIG. 6 and "75" in FIG. 7.  It's mentioned in the abstract, and in claim #33.
Title: Re: The real test and development description of Stan Meyers voltage based system
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 04, 2017, 05:34:10 am
"The next circuit comprises an electron inhibitor that prevents the flow of electrons; the circuit being in the terminal line between the negative plate exciter and ground. In those applications of the generator wherein excessively high voltage is to be applied to the plate exciters for a very high yield of gasses, a second electron inhibitor of a unique structure is serially connected with the first electron inhibiter. The second named inhibiter having a relatively fixed value and the first inhibiter connected in series is variable to fine tune the circuits to eliminate current flow.""

That sounds familiair.........2 chokes? Maybe not needed?

Just as in Puharich it seems.
Title: Re: The real test and development description of Stan Meyers voltage based system
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 04, 2017, 07:45:49 am
Where did you read draining part?

The last paragraph of Column 8 states:

Quote
The electron leakage resistor will again raise the upper limit of 8.5 volts amplitude before breakdown as shown at L-5 of FIG. 8. In the generation of the hydrogen and oxygen gasses to an infinite limit, as yet not fully appreciated, the upper level of amplitude of the voltage is removed with the utilization of the electron inhibitor of FIG. 7.

The two paragraphs above that are also relevant. 

When he talks about electron leakage, he means from one plate to the other - through the water.  So this resistor is draining the electrons which would other wise flow through the cell. This resistor is shown as "60" in FIG. 6 and "75" in FIG. 7.  It's mentioned in the abstract, and in claim #33.

Do you care to post the patent number?
Title: Re: The real test and development description of Stan Meyers voltage based system
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 04, 2017, 15:37:27 pm
It is on 661 ended one