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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2012, 19:38:59 pm »
We must be getting close - this website seems very slow lately.
Perhaps someone does not want us to solve this problem?

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #57 on: February 23, 2012, 20:57:24 pm »
The 8xa is the only replication which is charging the cell to a high voltage because it makes the
correct waveform which is a result of the full wave rectification.

You cannot charge a capacitor  to a high voltage with ac, and that is the problem we are all having with the 5 coil vic.

Webmug, the vic being a pulse transformer is what I have also figured out.
And this is where the problems start. Pulsing a coil with a square wave and getting
a square wave out takes precise engineering and coil design knowledge. If even one parameter
of the coil is incorrect the coil will output ac. This is why replication is so difficult.
The vic is an adaptation of a D.C. resonant charging circuit!

BTW-WHAT DOES PAGE 1-1 OF THE TECH BRIEF CALL THE VIC?
-A PULSING TRANSFORMER
If this was the function, the PLL is not needed?
Resonance is AC but perhaps there is something missing in the circuit as in input signal what we didn't replicate.
What it is could be tested if we have the proper setup, wfc and Vic setup. We want the core to maintain it's magnetic field. If it collapses then you get neg swing. Just like a dc pulse transformer has bias voltage to prevent neg voltage. You are right, DC unipolar pulses charge caps. Bottom choke mirrors neg voltage because it is connected in reverse.

But it is a wild guess and I didn't test it. I could be completely wrong here. That's the only thing I can think of at this moment.

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2012, 23:07:18 pm »
The chart you posted says 1. I was hoping you would make the correlation and find a better understanding of why you get the waveforms you are seeing with what you are charging, whether the dielectric is water, air , or polypropylene. If you are going to continue to slap together random sized components and wonder why it does or doesn't work, then I can only offer suggestions as to why.

Have you measured the self resonant frequencies of each coil separately? Have you measured the actual weight of each choke?

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #59 on: February 23, 2012, 23:19:33 pm »
What does the weight of the coil have to do with anything?

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #60 on: February 23, 2012, 23:34:55 pm »
Measuring weight is a much easier method of matching coils. Each choke should have equal amount of mass.

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #61 on: February 23, 2012, 23:56:53 pm »
The chart you posted says 1. I was hoping you would make the correlation and find a better understanding of why you get the waveforms you are seeing with what you are charging, whether the dielectric is water, air , or polypropylene. If you are going to continue to slap together random sized components and wonder why it does or doesn't work, then I can only offer suggestions as to why.

Have you measured the self resonant frequencies of each coil separately? Have you measured the actual weight of each choke?
Ok, I slap together random sized components...
What does the gas processor do? What is the dielectric constant between the exciters? 1...?
I have dead short condition because I don't have unipolar waveform.

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Re: Resonance WFC measurements
« Reply #62 on: February 24, 2012, 01:41:33 am »
weight would exclude the capacitance of the coils.
But yeah maybe that would get you close. I'd rather judge by inductance resistance and capacitance