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Projects by members => Projects by members => Dankie => Topic started by: Dankie on January 16, 2010, 10:03:20 am
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http://waterfuelcell.org/WFCprojects/StephenMeyer/20050246059.pdf
Here is a link to the Stephen Meyers system . I find it much less obscure with understandable vocabulary . It is the patent that Stephen was referring too in the interview as more advanced and back to square one .
Next question is , can we even trust a Meyers ?
Once I know who Stephen Chambers is I will go much deeper . I want confirmation that research of at least one of these brothers actually lead to a successful design . I will try calling Xogen and ask .
I have no doubt that serious effort and intent was put into this by him , the CIA cannot fake effort like the stuff I saw from Don's pics , but effort and intent alone is not enough for me .
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Ok I have sent my email to Xogen , I said I was interrested in investing and wanted to know if Stephen Chambers was related to Stan Meyers , that I heard there were fraud allegations pending and wanted to be reassured . I danced around that question in a polite manner .
Hope they answer me ...
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http://www.trcelectronics.com/Meanwell/hrp-300-24.shtml , maybe not this one , need cheaper .
2 of these on a aluminium box , 4 batteries is just too huge for my lab and a pain in the * .
Most efficient possible , neet , quiet , fast and portable .
Dankie's way .
For DC pulsing I''l use a smallish 12 volt battery . These power supplies have delay .
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So I have studied 3 phase systems before at school , we got a 3 phase power supply and everything there , I understand it perfectly when it comes from the wall plugs but this is a bit "mindbending" to me .
This is a solid state version of a 3 phase AC system , as you can see this is strange . I have made an very good 3 phase pure sine solid state driver with some pretty powerful amplification . Phase A,B,C are 120 degs out of phase and have same common ground , they all use same power supply .
I basicly wish to connect this as a Y source , delta load configuration .
http://www.mhhe.com/engcs/electrical...ages/t13-3.gif
I have spent much mental energy trying to figure out how I should connect it , it is very strange to me . I have much experience @ school as I just connect the alternator leads properly for this type of connection but this seems strange to me .
It seems to me like I already have my common source point , ( ground ) , is this the right connection ? Can this even be done ? I know it can be done via a transformer Y on the primary to delta on the secondary where neutral is my ground but I wanna try with no transformer . See the pic .
I am probably gonna make a 3 phase transformer myself with some faster core material since these dont exist , luckily the faster you go the less wire you need , this is easier to make than a VIC , just a big E and an I . This is gonna be just a nasty fun replication , I can now see what I should do , I have dealt with similar circuits as the WFC load in my 3 phase course , this is technician level circuitry .
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Never mind , looks like we have a winner here . Dont be mad because I'll be the first to replicate Meyers . Dont be surprised if I do .
This is more than hooking up metal to a battery and then saying it doesnt work , do not even think for a moment that your efforts were up to my standards .
. This is faith gentlemen , this is devotion, spending hundreds of hours on an attempt @ making something totally useless beyond replicating a patent that might not even work . Reverse engineering something that couldnt otherwise be done just for the sake of doability and efficiency .
All I need now is tubes and 6 X power veroboards , 6 x relays , these are with some impedance components . I can do this under 1000$ hahaha .
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/showthread.php?t=34234
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goodluck.. im interested to see your results.
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Never mind , looks like we have a winner here . Dont be mad because I'll be the first to replicate Meyers . Dont be surprised if I do .
This is more than hooking up metal to a battery and then saying it doesnt work , do not even think for a moment that your efforts were up to my standards .
. This is faith gentlemen , this is devotion, spending hundreds of hours on an attempt @ making something totally useless beyond replicating a patent that might not even work . Reverse engineering something that couldnt otherwise be done just for the sake of doability and efficiency .
All I need now is tubes and 6 X power veroboards , 6 x relays , these are with some impedance components . I can do this under 1000$ hahaha .
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/showthread.php?t=34234
Hi Dankie,
Question:
What should a 3 phase circuit do different towards a wfc?
I mean, if you have all 3 phases hooked up to 1 wfc, you will see almost strait dc.
Or if you use 1 wfc on 1 phase, you will have pulsed dc.
On both systems, it will stay simple electrolysis and faraday's law on that.
What do you think/hope you will see with your new insite/circuit?
Steve
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Outlaw thx for wishing me luck .
Steve I dont see where you see dc exactly , the claims in the patent shows this is as far more complicated than dc . This is like an acoustical resonating tube inductive ringing impedance matched wavelenght matching type thing .
There is also claims of over-production compared to electrolysis and no need of electrolyte , direct claims .
Basicly , a 5 year old can do electrolysis .
I hope to see better things than Stan Meyers design , thats what I hope .
I am following my hunch and experimenting .
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im kinda seeing this design like a solid state altenator needing no moving parts and will also require bifilars like the roatary vic.. it simple will eliminate the need of a rotor.... im not sure but thats what im thinking,,, i see a difference in voltage rise time compared to a alterntor since rise time in a alternator can depend on the speed of the rotor.. with dankies it will depend on the amplifiers and there ability to handle current i think so u may be able to get sharper rise time..
dankie is your logic syncing them 120 out of phjase from each other like a alternator?