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--- Quote ---Zero fossil fuels has done some tests for the addition of HHO to   gasoline for running internal combustion engines, i think understanding   his research, the results of which he points out in this video, will   help you save time and money while you are working on your project.

if   you are trying to run hydrogen into your car engine to make an   improvement on gas milage, you can do this, but it requires a lot of   hydrogen, in the range of 15, 20, 30 liters per minute, to see an   improvement, and anything less than that is useless.

these are not my conclusions, but his, as explained in his videos.

there   is also a research paper from some university in Australia that did   similar tests and got similar results, you can find that information   from some of smack's videos on youtube.
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15 to 30 lpm is wrong information. You can clearly see in this vid that a saving of 20 to 25% is easy with a cell that produces only 1 to 2 LPM. All the vids on this channel are a great inspiration. Thanks for your concern.

If your cell is efficient you can improve you milage, but for it to be efficient you need to make it series, to not let more than 2 volts per cell... I don't think that in your case extract the h2 without the 02 is not of benefit, however, add sodium hydroxide ad a bit of alcohol inside your cell and check the milage improvement... alcohol will catalyze the reaction... I could sustain a big yellow flame coming out of water last year... didn't smelled good i think that was because the fire was burning the sodium over the water... 

you should not need to adjust your Efi because as you are going to have more efficient burn of the gasoline the lambda sensor will miss oxygen and inject less gasoline... in this case would be of some value injecting pure h2... (if the lambda senses less oxigen (more efficient or more complete burn) it will reduce the gasoline sent to the engine) If you regulate yourself the lambda signal you will change the power rating of your engine, so if you can make it leaner consuming less gasoline but you will have equally less power.

However is good thing to have less power and more km... Is up to you.  The less the power or the less gasoline you inject, more oxigen is available to burn the gasoline you inject so you will have more power per gasoline injected, even without adding any h2.

another thing to do to improve the milage is to heat the gasoline a bit before injection, this assures more complete burn as the gasoline will evaporate better.. industry knows this but is not used because of the standards of safety... witch say that the fuel line should not interact with anything other than the injectors or the pump...

make some tests and report to us...


Good luck

Thanks for all your thoughts sebosfato. How the mileage will turn out is something to test. All I know and can see from the myhydrogencar-guys is that they made a separation cell, put the hydrogen in the air inlet, and thats it, immediately profit at the gas pomp (20-25% bingo!) Maybe it is necessary to use the oxygen side of this cell or use the EFI as well to improve the MPG some more. There must be some kind of control of the oxygen channel to adjust the fuel mixture, but that is something to find out later.

I have to build the cell first and that will take a while, and ya sure I will be back here to report what I have found.



Yes the efi is what regulate the gasoline injection, it measures the amount of oxygen coming out on the exhaust with this sensor called lambda, and control the gasoline injection maintaining to i think is 8% the amount of oxygen that must come out normally, than if for example it senses that less oxygen than 8% came out it will add more gasoline and vice versa...

Yes I think that they are adding only H2 for fooling the lambda, this way you consume more oxygen from the air and so it will automatically sends less gasoline, it is also safer...

However if you want even more efficiency, in my believe you would need to have the highest concentration of oxygen possible, but this would force you to also control the efi signal, otherwise you would only have more power in your engine, witch would also cause a better milage too thought... In most cases is very easy, you just need to use a potentiometer and a couple of resistors to make a voltage divider...   The lambda probe will send a voltage signal to control the injection you just need to raise or to lower this voltage signal to actually control it... There are some circuits also out there...

Good luck

Best Regards

So what do you do with the O2? Vent it into the car's interior?  :)


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