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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #224 on: April 12, 2009, 01:44:35 am »
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The coating on the inner tube serves nothing more than insulation preventing the charge from resolving and prolonging the scalar effect as per Bearden.  Meyer thought of using delrin in production because of the time necessary for conditioning.

what does mike mean by this?

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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #225 on: April 12, 2009, 02:00:45 am »
The gain in the outer tube produces a pulse out greater than the pulse in, opposing the field in the vic and input current drops. The diode stops the pulse out from resolving the charge of the inner tube. The coating on the inner tube serves nothing more than insulation preventing the charge from resolving and prolonging the scalar effect as per Bearden.  Meyer thought of using delrin in production because of the time necessary for conditioning.

There is a catch 22 here with the length of the tubes. The second harmonic of the tubes is only known after you cut  them and connect the circuit. Changing the length changes everything, so use a single short tube combination to start, an overtone of A or C or F, as multiple tubes can bring in adverse harmonics unless identically tuned. The length of the larger tubes will be a function of the vic.





Trying to understand this part myself . What are those variables , somekind of RF thing  ??? , plz help

Not saying we should undesatnd every sentence but we do have an idea , now we have identified more variables and know why it is shit always fucks up .

We have to view this as a scalar shit from now on .
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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #226 on: April 12, 2009, 03:58:39 am »
hahahah well guess what.....andrija puharich was correct.........first off i realize that i have a damn good function generator......you cannot get a second pulse on the off pulse unless you use AM modulation option.......i have no idea what that means.....but am modulation is the only way you can get it........regular square waves do not work.....hell yeah for luck!

second off.......the coil throws out 1060 volts when connected to just a volt meter..........now if you connect your probe it will drop to around 800-900......now take those same leads but only connected to your volt meter......and put them in water......goes from 1060 volts to around 240.......now connect the same leads to just your volt meter and ss tubes.......only 100 volts...........

anyone.....any ideas.

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« Reply #227 on: April 12, 2009, 04:16:46 am »
hahahah well guess what.....andrija puharich was correct.........first off i realize that i have a damn good function generator......you cannot get a second pulse on the off pulse unless you use AM modulation option.......i have no idea what that means.....but am modulation is the only way you can get it........regular square waves do not work.....hell yeah for luck!

second off.......the coil throws out 1060 volts when connected to just a volt meter..........now if you connect your probe it will drop to around 800-900......now take those same leads but only connected to your volt meter......and put them in water......goes from 1060 volts to around 240.......now connect the same leads to just your volt meter and ss tubes.......only 100 volts...........

anyone.....any ideas.

Show these 3 things everytime you update your log (this thread)  , then maybe we can imagine better .

1: your connection from coil to cell , connection of coil .
2:where you put your scope leads
3:waveform


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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #228 on: April 12, 2009, 04:41:22 am »
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The length of the larger tubes will be a function of the vic.

he speaks as if the negative inner tube has nothing to do with the pulse coming from the vic... it makes me think maybe the negative side of the secondary isnt connected to anything  and the stainless wire that it is hooked to it right now is going to ground instead..  with the negative side not connected will that not cause electrons to compress? and maybe on off time bounce back?

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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #229 on: April 12, 2009, 05:33:50 am »
during a lighting strike,  a cloud has built up with enough positive charge to the point where it is attracted to electron density on earth ground?  these attractions are fluid and cannot move as a mass?  so instead you get arks the point of easiest exchange and are sending electrons to the cloud and light to the ground... think about how lighting when it strikes the beach it makes glass due to the pure intensity of light(heat) being projected into the earth as well as the electron dismissal from earth? this exchange is happening with particles way smaller then a proton.. i cant remember but a electron is either 200 or 2000 times smaller then a proton.   i would say a lighting strike is like a cyclone..  the visible lighting is only the eye of the vortex where the most intensity is..  the exchange is happening so fast from our relative perspective.. we cant tell what type of exchange is happening.   makes me think of black holes and worm holes..   like maybe a lightning strike is a worm hole that only exist for a short lived time.. space is such a big volume... who knows how big of displaced potentials exist out there.. and a black holes life in a relative manner can make a black hole long lived with infinite  displacements?

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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #230 on: April 12, 2009, 07:54:10 am »
there is so much off topic shit in this thread......first off.....john the photo you posted of the presumed waveform is completely incorrect......there is no way that can be achieved unless connected to a capacitor and i can prove it.

second off ....dankie.....

Plz try the demartin connection , I`m curious .

That picture is nothing significant , it looks like a capacitor charge and discharge and not doubled .

haha wait what?......have you ever seen a capacitor charge and discharge on an oscope....it looks like the photo john posted as the supose-ed coil output waveform......HAS ANYONE READ THE GOD DAMN TECH BRIEF.

the scope shot i have is EXACTLY WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.....your comment is of complete emptiness.

this is what comes out of the coil......REGARDLESS......this signal then goes into the cell.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/wave2.jpg)


the step charging (diagonal line) is what happens inside and only inside the water capacitor.....why is that so hard to comprhened????
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/wave3.jpg)

and another thing dankie....please tell me your logic........"So now Kinesis , you must connect your VIC to tubes like Meyers say its supposed to be  , the  opposing bifilar."

haha you cannot connect the tubes to be opposing.....god damn are you lost in fantasy world?.......john designed the coil so that it's bifilar windings are already opposing.....aka the dot orientation.....or what i have been saying FOREVER.

john built the coil perfectly.....now everything depends on the pulse signal.......i can only modulate my wave form with an amplitude of 5volts and can set the waves amplitude to around 20 volts.......WE NEED TO BUILD THE IDENTICAL PULSE GENERATOR FROM THE INDEPENDENT REPORT.

so far there is NO SCALAR activity.......it is everything meyers has said it was.....voltage potential in resonance......I WOULD RECOMMEND LOOKING INTO ANDRIJAH PUHRICHS WORK....he is the closest to meyers by far.

sorry to be so blunt and abrasive but i am sick of all the crazy theoretical talk crowding up my projects section i would like it if you posted your theories in your own sections and let me post mine here.

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Re: unipolar pulse trains
« Reply #231 on: April 12, 2009, 14:47:57 pm »
Troy,
I see exactly what you mean by the waveform off the coil charging the capacitor.  I suspect when we got that signal we had the scope leads on the primary reading stevejlo circuit and not the coil.  It is understandable because his Lawton type circuit does have capacitors.   My mistake.  Here are the links I use to search the math for resonance. You may already have these because they are helpful.
http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/calc/calcreac.htm
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Bill_Bowden/XLC.htm
http://www.deephaven.co.uk/lc.html