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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2013, 20:38:29 pm »
Yea you have to have some current in the system to make the magnetic field in the coils. Like I've said before in other posts on here, the resonance looks to be taking place between the two inductors and the cell has very little significance. I haven't yet got this to take place with the 5 coil VIC Transformer, but I have had success with this taking place with the 8XA circuit and bifilar chokes.

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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2013, 21:33:48 pm »
Like I've said before in other posts on here, the resonance looks to be taking place between the two inductors and the cell has very little significance.

I generally agree fom my own experience.  The cap seems to have some influence but seems mostly determined by the coils.

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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2013, 22:15:20 pm »
Yea you have to have some current in the system to make the magnetic field in the coils.

Up until now, I have had a small ammeter inline between the choke and the cap.  Except for one occasion for me which I have not been able to replicate, usually the gas production is directly related to the current to the cell.  My ammeter goes from 0 to 50 mA.   At 10mA and less I usually have a slight trickle, at 20mA I have a gentle stream, at 40mA I have a steady stream (all when the circuit is locked in resonance).  But I get nothing like I would get if I put straight DC at 1A on the cell.

Tony, the PDF you just linked to say they experimented with 4 gauge wire with fairly low turns around a 6" pipe as a primary in one instance.  Have you tried a coil with such large wire and diameter?  How wood this function differently from using 22 gauge around a 2" core?

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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2013, 22:57:22 pm »
Yea you have to have some current in the system to make the magnetic field in the coils. Like I've said before in other posts on here, the resonance looks to be taking place between the two inductors and the cell has very little significance. I haven't yet got this to take place with the 5 coil VIC Transformer, but I have had success with this taking place with the 8XA circuit and bifilar chokes.
Yes Tony,i have built a new 5coil vic with 0.1mm wire for all coils,i too was not able to get it to work.But a mini injector coil  vic seems to be working.I put a lightbulb in series with the primary,to see the curent draw.At first i got 3v across the cell(lightbulb was bright on the primary)when I twiched the freq the voltage rise to 7v and the light intensity droped to barely an orange filament,and production increased prior to 7v strait dc.A very strange thing i noticed though...i get over 1000v out of the secoundary on all frequencies ranges...although my tr.has a 1:3 ratio between pr.and sec.,with12v pulsing at the primary.The voltage was tested with a multim.which was maxed out,then i put a small neon bulb which lit....Could someone explain?...Thanks!!!

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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2013, 08:02:19 am »
I just wanna jump in this thread to mention that all Stan's research is based on the concept and testing that can be found in the documents "Electrically Induced Explosions in Water" which can be found here on my website http://www.globalkast.com/docs/Electrically_Induced_Explosions_in_Water.zip

Basically it says the cell has a very low resistance, usually less than 10 ohms. From what I can tell, they are charging the inductors and then allowing the stored energy to discharge into the cell.

Another thing you can also say is that the Secondary is in Parallel with the cell, but the Inductors are in Series with the cell...kinda like a series-parallel circuit.

Tony
In pdf You mentioned they are charged 2 microfarad capacitor to 1-10 kV and then discharged it thru 38 microhenries inductor into a water column, not like You said '' they are charging the inductors and then allowing the stored energy to discharge into the cell."  It is unlike as in Stans vic - there is not other capacitor , only water capacitor.
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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2013, 20:20:56 pm »
If you discharge a capacitor thru a coil what is the instant current? zero right? because all the emf will be at the inductor.

If the inductor is charged instead current is at maximum...

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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2013, 20:54:12 pm »
Hy TS ,i'v done some testing with thiner wire on the chokes,i got the hv with the cell unconected,but when i conect it the voltage droped to 3v.So 0.4mm chokes=10v---03mm chokes=3v=your theory works.Thicker chokes acts like a capacitor when conecting the cell,it is not leting the voltage to drop very much,it oposes  the cell with more strenth..Cheers!!

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Re: Theory - Low Resistance is Preferable in VIC Coils [CORRECTED]
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2013, 21:05:27 pm »
Hy TS ,i'v done some testing with thiner wire on the chokes,i got the hv with the cell unconected,but when i conect it the voltage droped to 3v.So 0.4mm chokes=10v---03mm chokes=3v=your theory works.Thicker chokes acts like a capacitor when conecting the cell,it is not leting the voltage to drop very much,it oposes  the cell with more strenth..Cheers!!

Excellent verification adys15!!   But more specifically, the WFC becomes more able to exercise resistance against the choke, the choke having less resistance due to higher surface area (skin effect) allowing a greater voltage potential to become established. 

I'm assuming you did the same number of turns with a similar core in both cases.  Also, did you try reversing polarities on the chokes?  I find that sometimes you'll get different results just by reversing the wires.

Thanks!!

TS
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